Finally someone with a decent take smdh

yeah it was always awkward as fuck growing up enjoying a good fast-paced flick with the fam and then suddenly there’s just two minutes of darkness, lotioned skin, whispery plosives, breathy vowels, and macaroni mixing sounds, all with the mic volume WAY THE FUCK UP versus other scenes where you can’t even hear people talk under the soundtrack. And then everyone has to sit there and act like it isn’t happening, or race to be the first one to get up and go pee, and this was back before everyone had smartphones to distract themselves with.

its going to stay that way for most due to how astronomically high housing is in this shit country

What they really need is a way to stop parents from walking in the EXACT MOMENT when a sex scene plays

Seems like a tool to look more “adult”

Kinda like a middle schooler who thinks saying “fuck” every other word makes them cool

I can’t think of a time when it’s actually added to the narrative

watch a decently made movie then. citing people failing to successfully use a creative tool as a reason it shouldn’t exist is ridiculous

i think this is a you thing and not a film thing

Same. I often fast forward through them especially when they’re too long.

I stopped reading Berserk because of that shit

honestly the issue I have with sex scenes isn’t that they exist per se, it’s that there’s almost always insufficient time to really set up the appropriate level of emotional connection that makes it not awkward. a movie of ~2 hours length certainly isn’t enough time; you can put a timeskip saying “1 month later” on the screen but that’s only in-universe, it doesn’t make me feel any better. in games it’s a little better as they can be longer, but not all of a game’s, say, 60-80 hour runtime (in the case of games like Baldur’s Gate 3) is gonna be dialogue and relationship-building, most of it’s gonna be defeating enemies or doing other stuff.

and also real flirting can be hard to depict in games with approval systems - like, I say something that you agree with enough times in conversations and you suddenly wanna get in my pants? where did that come from? feels very “press correct button X times to receive sex,” though fundamentally a video game cannot be any other way because, well, that’s how code works. I have seen few games (at least ones that aren’t explicitly a romance game as opposed to a game that happens to contain romance) displaying a genuine building of attraction over time as opposed to a sudden shift from “we did a great job saving those guys and defeating the monsters. +1 to Approval” and then 5 seconds later “ohoho I can feel the electricity between us, I’ve never felt this way before…”. those that do have those appropriate arcs tend to already have already very suave, charismatic, handsome men like Ezio Auditore from Assassin’s Creed and his romance with… everybody, but especially Sforza or whatever her name was.

but again, I am generally pro-sex scene even if the implementations sometimes (often?) aren’t done very well imo

What the fuck are these people watching? Euphoria maybe? Game of Thrones?

I want more sex in my media. Every video game, TV show and movie can only be improved by graphic, preferably gay sex

I don’t watch movies i just catch prestige TV by being in the room while it’s on. Maybe it’s a choice made by the people watching them but it seems like every single TV show has a sex scene every other episode. If not a R scene

“on screen” would include music videos and ads to me. Which both have more sex than I care to see

Paul Verhoeven movies are exactly the kind of art the scolds in this thread hate. They would never allow Showgirls to be made if they were in charge

exactly, there’s a way to do sex positivity without turning everything into almost-softcore-porn for 3 minutes

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Which movie do you think has most benefited from a sex scene?

But sex scenes are a very small part of media. Unless you’re game of thrones and it’s thrown in your face every 5 seconds because the producers are so perverted they made the actresses refuse to be nude in future seasons.

But the point is that people freak out about sex are usually more annoying than the ones who get horny over a 5 second flash of a boob on screen

Also, prestige TV fucking sucks. Id rather watch cute and dumb cartoons than the next 1000 grimdark sex murder shows

Yeah, 10-24 is young enough that a significant portion of the people surveyed believe in cooties and Santa Claus. Many of them haven’t even started puberty. Not exactly a mature enough audience to have a nuanced discussion on sexuality.

the volcel meme was always weird.

It comes from the old sub where it emerged as a way to “jokingly” confrontationally shut down redditors and combat the culture of gross hornyposting whenever a thread was at least tangentially about a woman, which is only a few steps down from unsolicited dickpics and catcalling in the creepy cishet guy arsenal of tools to lash out at and feel like they’re exerting control over women. The sub at the time had only 3 or 4 mods IIRC and an extremely hands-off moderation culture compared to its later purge of stupidpol posters or this site’s repeated struggle sessions and purges that have arrived at the current aggressive crackdowns on style thirstposting, so the community had to rely on bullying to shut the redditors down.

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People like to fuck. This is mostly true even for asexual people (the main difference is that non-sex-repulsed asexual people aren’t driven by a desire to fuck but the actual sexual act itself can still be fun to them). And people can get very creative in where and when they fuck. Art should reflect this reality on some level.

I feel like the same creepy people would be shocked to learn teleworkers are using their time WFH to fuck on the company clock. Like, people already hook up on company time before Covid for a quickie. WFH makes it much easier lmao

THOR: Last Tango in Asgard.

Now here’s the twist, and there is a twist…

We show it.

We show all of it.

Because what’s the one major thing missing from all action movies these days, guys?

Full penetration

Guys, we’re gonna show full penetration and we’re gonna show a lot it

they make those movies and tbh the writing isn’t noticeably worse than marvel

Worth noting Geralt hasn’t done that in close to 2 decades now. Witcher 3 sex scenes are actually pretty good in how they’re used to deepen or contextualize character relationships

I don’t think all physical intimacy should be wiped from media. I don’t think we should act like breasts should be shielded at all costs because it makes people feel awkward due to being raised in a society that makes breasts naughty.

I understand people being tired of shitty hollywood sex scenes, but I don’t think its good enough reason to do a 180 and never see a stray nip in a movie ever again.

I’m confused about who you’re arguing against, neither the headline nor the article give me the impression that anyone is suggesting that.

12 year olds are a key market demographic for media

Is that really the argument? Imagine if this is taking to it’s logical conclusion and everything “not necessary for the plot” is removed from TV shows and movies. What’s the point then? There would be zero point in watching the show or movie, reading the plot summary would serve the exact same purpose.

Movies and TV series are supposed to be a form of entertainment and even art on occassion, that takes you on a journey, makes you feel something. That involves many things that don’t necessarily advance the plot, but get the audience emotionally invested into the characters, the fictional world, the narratives, the motives. Without that, what is the point? The plot can’t exist on its own as a standalone entity. In many cases it even works in an inverse. The plot is used and chosen to make the audience feel a certain way about something. The plot becomes secondary to the same emotions the authors or producers want to convey.