• KobaCumTribute [she/her]@hexbear.net
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    1 year ago

    the volcel meme was always weird.

    It comes from the old sub where it emerged as a way to “jokingly” confrontationally shut down redditors and combat the reddit-logo culture of gross hornyposting whenever a thread was at least tangentially about a woman, which is only a few steps down from unsolicited dickpics and catcalling in the creepy cishet guy arsenal of tools to lash out at and feel like they’re exerting control over women. The sub at the time had only 3 or 4 mods IIRC and an extremely hands-off moderation culture compared to its later purge of stupidpol posters or this site’s repeated struggle sessions and purges that have arrived at the current aggressive crackdowns on reddit-logo style thirstposting, so the community had to rely on bullying to shut the redditors down.

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      i know! i was on the old sub. i fully understand the culture. every time i complain about it people try explaining it to me like i just dont understand i know! in fact i was minor who the policy should have been protecting lol (i hope some of yall know you were flirting with a 16 year old lol). doest change the amount of shitty and disguised sexulization the culture creates (suddenly everything with a womens body requires anti horny memes which if you are the only one sexaulizing nin sexual things youre the problem), and makes people feel comfortable saying awful misanthropic and misogynistic things like seen in this thread and many others. listen, its a part of the site culture and it was mainly implemented to protect trans women so I as a afab nonbinary person dont call for the whole thing to me abandoned (i know trans women get harassed 10 time more than me so i can suck it up for their benefit), i just fucking hate it and how its used for misogynistic reasons. and if people are being gross to me they usually get banned anyway so im fine its just annoying. sorry for sounding frustrated i just hate that every time i voice frustration someone feels this need to explain it to me like im some ignorant newbie instead of a longtime user who this policy is suppose to protect. i know you dont have bad intentions koba, thank you, i just get so annoyed when i feel condescended to. but yeah im gonna have to change my name to othello-I-AM-AN-OLD-USER

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        (suddenly everything with a womens body requires anti horny memes which if you are the only one sexaulizing nin sexual things youre the problem)

        Yeah, I’ve seen that too. I still prefer people being like “haha yeah I sure would be saying something gross right now if not for the standards of this community haha” to them saying something more explicit and thus normalizing that sort of thing, but it’s still gross. It should never be a tongue-in-cheek self report because then it’s just a euphemism, it should be a response to gross comments although now the site culture and moderation level is just that those get slapped with comment removals and/or bans instead so it may have less of a purpose now than when it was just “peer pressure redditors into not being creepy because the mods aren’t doing shit.”

        And sorry, I do always feel compelled to chime in about the history of weird site culture things to try to keep the institutional knowledge alive and preempt the telephone game of new users who just heard about it somewhere trying to fill it in. I can see how that would feel patronizing and I apologize for that.