Also docked to the space station is SpaceX’s Crew Dragon capsule that ferried four astronauts to the ISS in March, and a Russian Soyuz capsule that delivered three others in September. Stich acknowledged that at least one of those vehicles could provide an alternative ride home for Wilmore and Williams.
i keep thinking about @happybadger’s (probably tongue-in-cheek) theory that 9/11 was actually 4 unrelated boeing aircraft failures and the whole “terrorist” narrative was a coverup carried out with the cooperation of the bush administration to justify the invasions of afghanistan and iraq. 9/11 wasn’t an inside job, it wasn’t even an outside job. it was corporate negligence and malfeasance, a spectacular coincidence, and naked political opportunism combined into a mass hallucination with horrifying and deadly consequences, from which we’ve collectively yet to awaken.
obviously that’s not true, of course. obviously. but when i read stories like this i do start to wonder…
that just sounds like a Coen Brother’s movie.
it’s all set in the same heavily stylized version of new york city as the hudsucker proxy
Listen, Jack – I call it a whirling dingus
You know, for kids!
Remember when ISIS took credit for the Vegas shooting? Imagine if the US just went with the narrative and ISIS commanders become concerned because now they have no choice but to keep up the farce or else they lose face lol
There was that plane that crashed in the Far Rockaways like a month after 9/11. If the circumstances of that crash had been slightly different, veered more towards a denser neighborhood, yeah it would’ve a 9/11 of negligence.
You know the thing about conspiracies is that they often underestimate just how bad the real world actualy is.
So forget 9/11, current year American aviation is going through a severe crisis, Blancolirio posted about this recently covering the recent close calls.
So its not like its impossible to have multiple failures and a massive coverup, its just that these failures would have been happening for months before and probably after 9/11.
In the current situation though, its literally a miracle there was no major incident so far, ignoring the Boeing stuff obviously.
I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:
That would be a plot twist on par with One Piece. If that’s the case and we, as an audience, had to learn a bunch of class consciousness for it to make sense then that’s good writing. If, then, JFK were the victim of a negligent shampoo company, then I would spend the rest of my life curating and teaching American history so it can be told in the same order I learned it.
Wait one piece has a huge twist? I’m only on episode 370 (thriller bark)
I was making a shitty little joke to myself with that one. One Piece isn’t exactly the literary gold standard for plot twists. But there is a twist that makes you go back and look at all the early stuff with a discerning eye.
I’m still in shock about the pacing in one piece. When I think of Thriller Bark, I think “oh, you’ve gotten to the newer stuff! You’re almost caught up!” Because that was my perception… IN HIGH SCHOOL
Lmao yeah only 900 episodes behind!
I’m mostly caught up to OP and I’m not sure if I follow what twist you’re talking about. Just being vague is it
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related to how the Kaido fight resolved?
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it is. Shanks knows something having stolen the fruit from a Marine ship right before episode 1. It makes me suspicious of Mihawk. Even Crocus and Rayleigh knew something was up the second they looked at Luffy. Even Dragon, what’s up with him? I’m a conspiracy theorist!
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Gotcha, yeah all of that absolutely re-contextualized the early part of the series and raises even more questions. Also I feel so silly for just now noticing it but in certain angles Luffy’s strawhat straight up looks like a halo from medieval art depictions
I’ve got enough cultural Osmosis to be into One Piece but it’s too long, can you update me on what you two are talking about?
It’s the simplest explanation and therefore Occam’s Razor says it’s true.
exactly! the conventional narrative posits that nineteen hijackers are responsible, and the “inside job” narrative posits that the entire bush administration was in on it. the beauty of this parsimonious theory is that it only posits four failures in boeing aircraft, a highly plausible scenario to begin with.
I’d trust a Soyuz with my life over any privately made corner cutting spacecraft any day, fuck that. Outsourcing spaceflight to the private sector always seemed like asking for all sorts of trouble.
Soyuz’s design is good, including the Soyuz-2 carrier rocket, the crew vehicle called Soyuz, and the Soyuz-derived uncrewed cargo vehicle called Progress. But there have been major quality control issues over the past decade on all three. Propellant leaks, coolant leaks, a failed booster that caused an in-flight abort of a crew flight, holes in vehicles, all sorts of issues. And Salyut-derived ISS modules have had their own issues, such as Nauka’s uncontrolled thruster firing after docking to the ISS which sent the whole station into an uncontrolled slow spin until it ran out of thruster fuel.
I respect the work of Chief Designer and his colleagues during the USSR era but I have little faith in Roscosmos’ QA.
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god i miss the soviet union
Cutting-corner technology
They are claustrophobic as shit, but they seem to have gotten the kinks out 50+ years ago. I wonder if the successor is gonna be just as reliable
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It will not be
Octavia Butler was a prophet
parable of the sower was written over 30 years ago before widespread adoption of the internet and other major technological innovations and social changes. how much could she really have gotten right?Beginning in 2024, when society in the United States has grown unstable due to climate change, growing wealth inequality, and corporate greed, Parable of the Sower takes the form of a journal kept by Lauren Oya Olamina, an African American teenager.
Listen to the interview where she just took what all her teacher friends were telling her in the 1990s and she just extrapolated it all! I find it really sad that she gave up on Parable of the Trickster cause she realized how difficult living in space actually was.
I loved those two books, even though they’re very emotionally hard to read.
In the book NASA has a host of issues with a mars mission including an astronaut dying but in the timeline of the book it basically gets sold for parts and privatized.
why would anyone trust the private sector with space stuff? neoliberal rot
The dirty secret of US spaceflight is that it was always private. NASA has never built a rocket that can go to orbit, or orbital crew vehicles. It’s all been private contractors, ever since the pre-NASA NACA days.
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Some did. Others did R&D work for NASA, which would be made available to the private contractors building NASA’s rockets and spacecraft.
Not even that, they already discovered leaks and shit before launch but went ahead with the launch anyways because waiting 2 more months will impact share values.
Remember the myths about stranded Soviet cosmonauts and them being equipped with cyanide capsules in case they’re stuck? Wonder if we’ll see that myth manifest to reality with americans.
It’s always projection.
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What does the soyuz crew do then?
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Pretty sure Soyuz can be sent up empty if needed
It can, they did it last year, but generally any empty seats going to or from the station represent a big waste.
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You’d have to convince russia to cancel a crewed mission to free up a spacecraft for that.
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I’d put money on the upcoming august Crew-9 flight of a Crew Dragon to become the rescue craft. It’s scheduled to have four crew fly to the ISS for a six-month mission, but I think NASA would probably fly it up with just the commander and pilot, and let the two “stranded” astronauts fill the roles of the two mission specialists for the full mission length. This would also give NASA, Boeing, and SpaceX time to figure out a way to connect Starliner pressure suits to Crew Dragon power/data/life support systems, and fly up that adapter hardware on a cargo flight.
The Crew Dragon is theoretically capable of flying seven crew, but that seat configuration has never actually been used on any orbital flights, and there’s no way in hell NASA authorizes a major modification to a crew vehicle just weeks before it’s due to launch.
Interestingly enough, if the two Crew-9 mission specialists are bumped off the flight, there are geopolitical-tension consequences. One of the mission specialists is Russian. NASA and Roscosmos have miraculously maintained a cordial working relationship despite waves hands around in general.
Most likely they’ll come back in the boeing ship eventually, but if they have to be rescued, it’ll be a significant money and time cost to whoever does it. I don’t think russia is looking to do a huge favor for america that probably wouldn’t be returned.
NASA Administrator is a high-prestige, high-profile political appointment. The Administrator answers only to the US President. There is never going to be a situation in the current political climate where a sitting President (regardless of party) asks for Russian help when there’s another American company that’s already successfully doing passenger taxi service to the ISS.
That puts the Roscosmos Administrator in an interesting political situation. There’s probably going to be an internal political argument about how to respond. They could cheekily offer a certain-to-be-rejected offer of a rescue flight, but would be a domestic propaganda win. Or they could keep it professional with some variation of “We have trust in our skilled partners at NASA to resolve the situation”.
I’d bet the latter wins out though. Roscosmos (and its predecessor organization in the USSR) and NASA have always kept a friendly and professional relationship, regardless of geoplitical tensions. The predecessor to the current Roscosmos Administrator was known for running his mouth off but the current one is a lot more professional and diplomatic.
You know you had a good thing going with Soyuz…Seriously send them home on another ship and send the Broking down empty. Yes optics bad but better than risking killing someone because of hubris.
Remember in The Martian when China helps save the American astronaut from certain death, thus bringing the entire world closer together? That was cool.
Anyway, sure is a shame these astronauts will die up there.
Nobody’s going to die here. The ISS is capable of keeping people alive for a while and there’s no interruptions to cargo traffic. If they don’t fix starliner, they can marshall a crew dragon or soyuz. Both are very safe and reliable capsules that can be sent up somewhat quickly.
nah i think they’re fucked
Starliner is approved to stay docked to the ISS for 45 days - which would be July 21 - or up to 90 days using various backup systems and depending largely on the health of its lithium ion batteries, which have caused concerns in the past.
sounds like its more than just the 2 are at risk by leaving it docked, too.
A lithium battery fire on the ISS would have to be one of the absolute worst nightmare scenarios
Nobody is Boeing home.
Looks like we gotta suicide another Boeing whistle blower… This time the target is some astronauts.
If it’s Boeing, I ain’t going (home).
Going to have to execute a lot more whistleblowers over this one.
I wonder at what point the astronauts are just gonna be like “fuck it let’s roll the dice in your faulty spaceship” because the alternative is dying in space
The alternative is not dying in space, it’s riding down on a Russian craft.
ISS thankfully can house non Boeing spacecraft so they’ll be fine. The ISS should ban Boeing imo otherwise it’ll end up like the scene from Interstellar when the spacecraft explodes.
Was that interstellar or the other astronaut one that came out around the same time
That was Gravity.
Um ackshually you can’t get from Hubble to the ISS on MMU jets.
…And then from ISS to Tiangong in a Soyuz.
Gravity was so good, still annoys me “power of love” interstellar overshadowed it
I liked the part where George Clooney mansplains the survival solution to Sandra Bullock who then gives him the credit despite Clooney being dead for the last hour and a half of the film.
I didn’t really interpret it like that, but sure
where we’re Boeing, we won’t need eyes to see
They are not stuck, they’re just having so much fun they decided to stay a little longer.
HAL 9000 but it’s the Boeing CEO
:scooby-fred: Let’s learn the true identity of the evil AI!
pulls off the mask
:scooby-fred: Old Man Capital?!
