Donald is absolutely smitten with Zohran! I can’t believe what I’m watching https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptzw8efnogo
Chairman Mamdani met with President Trump in a historic meeting, no doubt the beginning of normalization of relations between the United States and the People’s Republic of New York. Some experts have also begin speculating that the US will vote for the formal entry of the People’s Republic of New York into the UN over the Republic of New York as the sole representative of New York.
Only Trump could go to New York
Some shitlib talking head was just on CNN saying how Trump loves communists more than americans
They’re mad that the communist can actually do the bipartisanship they always are hounding after.
“We have differences, but we both are motivated to look good, so let’s focus on that” goes a whole lot farther than just tailing Trump’s platform and talking points like a sad puppy for 10 years.
At the same time, imagine going ahead with meeting Trump. I get why he did, but ughhh
honestly it might be an effective strategy for keeping trump off his back, winning him over with a little charm.
Sheinbaum has been effective with it
The big difference is that Sheinbaum is the president of a sovereign country that, while being dependent on the United States, also holds significant bargaining chips that can be leveraged against Trump. Mamdani has no such leverage so I think they aren’t comparable.
Its comparable in the sense of “trump doesn’t care about anything policy wise besides his he felt about the last person he talked to”
Not to overintellectualize Trump or fall into the Varoufakis trap of thinking everything is 5D chess, but I don’t think it’s good strategy to assume your enemies ignore material reality in favor of vibes.
If anything i think this only makes the case for Mamdani and Trump meeting stronger
That’s essentially their interpretation of Trump having more respect for people who stand tall and don’t act like a lapdog, even if they’re an adversary, than for your average Democrat who will lick his boots at the first opportunity.
wtf trump is in the polycule now!?
Awesome country you’ve got over there
Lmao @12:30:
…you said “trump is a fascist”, are you reaffirming that statement?
“Well I uh…”
Trump: “It’s fine, you can just say it, easier than explaining the whole thing” pats arm
Lmaoooo
Lmao again, someone transcribe 14:45 pls
If you’re short on time its good to watch the wrap up @29:00 to get an idea about the whole thing
I think that, to Trump, “communist” and “fascist” are just mean names to call a politician. So you know, call me a fascist, I’ll call you a communist, its all in good fun at the end of the day as long as Trump gets to score points against the dem establishment and distract from Epstein.
It’s just like that thing about him funding Hillary that he handwaved away. Yeah, it’s a big club and this is all theater. Who cares!
ig it was a handwave but ‘I’m rich I gave money to everyone’ was a great mask off moment for those with eyes to see it
The whole thing is a lovefest, I’m cackling. Loved this bit @21:25 where Trump defends Mamdani from a pretty flimsy gotcha question:
REPORTER: Thank you, Mr. President. I have a question for you, but a very quick one for the mayor: why did you fly here? Aren’t trains greener?
MAMDANI: [laughing] I will use every form of transit and I want to make sure that they’re all affordable in New York City and that’s why making buses fast and free is a centerpiece of our campaign.
TRUMP: [to reporter] Did you—
REPORTER: There is a bus that goes—
TRUMP: Well, but—I know but if he flew, that’s a lot quicker, too. You know, I mean, he’s—he’s working very hard. For him to be—that’s a long—that’s a very that’s a very long drive. [looking at Mamdani] I’ll stick up for you [both smile, Mamdani nods]. You know, the plane takes you 30 minutes and driving takes you a long— [cut off by reporter’s next question]Among many other things, I think Trump feels some genuine camaraderie for someone who has been treated very unfairly by the media.
edit: another good bit @25:19
TRUMP: I tell you, the press has eaten this thing up. You know, I’ve had a lot of meetings with the heads of major countries. Nobody cared. This meeting that you people have gone cra—you know, outside you have hundreds of people waiting [briefly looks at Mamdani]. This is just a small little group. For some reason, the press has found this to be a very interesting meeting. The biggest people in the world, they come over from countries—nobody cares. But—[gestures at Mamdani] they did care about this meeting. And it was a great meeting.
Another great way to ingratiate yourself with Trump—get him a bunch of press! Dude was eating it up.
True but also be should have taken the train
Hot take: make the trains not suck
Correct but the one HSR the US has runs from Madison Square Garden to the US Capitol building.
real?
Acela express yeah, could definitely be faster, but oh well
ah didn’t realise it opened in August, US was at 0 miles of hsr prior though?
I would rather have a rail network that connects every metro area in the country than one single route of high-speed rail. Don’t care if it’s low-speed (50 mph is fine) as long as it exists.
Sure but just saying any socialist traveling along the NE corridor is expected (by me) to take the train instead of fly since it exists already and takes around the same amount of time. There are valid reasons to drive (unfortunately).
(Actually train take 4 hours vs 1.5 hrs flight time, but the train is city center to city center with no security, airport has security, but it depends on if you’re in queens or Manhattan maybe)
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Lmao the massive grin on Trump’s face during that exchange
13:50 SOME REPORTER, OFF-SCREEN: The cost of living is something that you and Mr. Mamdani seem to agree on. Democrats have run New York City for a long time, Mr. Mamdani, Do you see Democrat policies specifically as being a problem and [stammering, but basically “I’d like both of you to answer”]
14:10 MAMDANI: Look I think that there are many things in our city where we have to own the responsibility of the things that have existed long before the president was the president and those are also part of the message of our campaign was to take on a broken politics of our past and I ran against a number of candidates which represented different versions of that past, and what we found time and again is that working people were left behind in the politics of our city and what we’re looking to do is put those people right back at the heart of our politics so that we don’t have a situation where we’re in the wealthiest city in the history of the world and yet one in five can’t even afford $2.90 for a metro card.
14:45 OFF SCREEN: Mr. President?
14:45 TRUMP: You know we had some interesting conversations and some of his ideas really have - the same ideas I have. But a big thing on cost - you know the new word is affordability, another word is just groceries. It’s sort of an old fashioned word but it’s very accurate. And they’re coming down they’re coming down. They were - You know we had both of us, we had the highest inflation in the history of our country the last four years under… [dramatic pause] the Biden administration. and we’ve got inflation down now to our normal numbers, it’s going to go even lower than that.
That’s roughly it. I transcribed it myself. Might have misplaced an article or changed a “are” to a “were” here or there. You get what you pay for :)
Also,
Donald Trump
Will Stancil“THE ECONOMY IS DOING FINE”
“grosseries” it’s sort of an old fashioned term
Had me rolling
I’m not impressed by this Mamdani guy at all, but this whole thing is so fucking hilarious that I’m willing to concede to our resident DSA radlibs that him getting elected might have been a good thing after all
Every clip I’ve seen so far has had me literally howling lmfao
Its very comedic to see the establishment confront mild principles like a municipal grocery store and lowering rent prices
If your country doesn’t have an entire toolbar for municipal grocery stores it is less sophisticated than Workers and Resources: Soviet Republic (which is a game).
Ye Olde Groceries
Holy hell, I saw that clip of the fascist question a few minutes ago and assumed it was fake. IT WAS REAL?!?! Trump seems totally smitten with him. Did not expect that.
Holy shit lmao
lol what
Real talk though, here’s my initial assumptions about what could’ve gone down here:
- Zohran capitulated on a bunch of stuff, promised that he won’t rock the boat much and will slow down now he won the election
- Trump really does just trust the last person he talked with, and Zohran did a good job of just appearing like a smart and polite guy to get on Trump’s good side
- The mere fact that Zohran spoke English fluently, used honorifics, and obviously wasn’t a jihadist caught Trump off guard.
- Trump is in a weak spot right now because of all the bad press and he’s desperate to leech off some good will from someone who is much more popular (i.e. the title of this post)
I initially was writing these as separate possibilities but now that I read them over, I think the most likely explanation is that some part of all 4 of these is true and that’s why they were so unexpectedly conciliatory.
I’m almost certain its just that Trump is dumb and the fact that Mamdani is polite and well spoken.
Trump loves a winner. Probably why he’s so miserable right now, surrounded by loser sycophants
I don’t think Mamdani would’ve booked the meeting just to be polite and not make any concessions as to protect his own interests. Maybe not full on coward mode, maybe that’s too pessimistic, but I doubt it was just a playdate.
I think that is overly pessimistic. Trump is not ideological, and that’s an understatement. Mamdani’s policies are objectively good for NYC - even for the rich, if they weren’t such absolute greedy pigs they could see it too. I think Mamdani just went in there and spoke like he did on the campaign and Trump was probably wowwed at what could be done for an incredibly small tax increase.
And Mamdani has off the charts charisma. He knows how to get people to like him, I don’t think it’s that complicated.
Trump is deeply corrupt. He cares a lot about his own wealth, image and brand and and very little about Christofascism or the US Imperial project.
Mamdani is mayor of NYC, where Trump came up and is still heavily invested (Trump Tower is in NY).
I think it’s very possible that Trump sees much greater benefit in having a strong personal relationship with the overwhelmingly popular mayor of NYC than in trying to burn him down for the sake of empire, party politics or class solidarity. Getting on with each other also enhances both of their reputations’ as ‘political outsiders’, helping distance themselves from heir deeply unpopular parties and strengthen their personal brands.
I wouldn’t have expected this at all but in hindsight this makes a surprising amount of sense from Trump’s perspective and obviously Mamdani (who isn’t relying on the support of never Trump Blue MAGA democrats) will benefit greatly from not being obstructed federally.
This account posting anything other than emojis scares and confuses me
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The mere fact that Zohran spoke English fluently, used honorifics, and obviously wasn’t a jihadist caught Trump off guard.
Could simply be that Donald is having a much better time with Zohron than he did with Mohamed Bin Salmon earlier this week.
My wife pointed out that, all political theater aside, Trump as corporation still has a lot of economic interest in NYC, especially real estate. So there’s a financial incentive for Trump to schmooze, set up for some favor trading to benefit him.
This is the vibe I picked up. Trump talked a lot about how he was going to address housing with new construction. Who’s going to get those contracts? Either some sort of deal was made, or at least Mamdani expressed that the potential was there. That’s my guess anyway.
I initially was writing these as separate possibilities but now that I read them over, I think the most likely explanation is that some part of all 4 of these is true and that’s why they were so unexpectedly conciliatory.
I think that’s pretty much it yeah lol
He also likes him because he draws the ire of a lot of the same people he hates.
not as complicated as you’re making it I think. Trump likes winners and I’m sure was aware that 'if I treat Zohran nicely on camera and tell him he can call me a fascist I’ll be in the news instead of Dick Cheney’s damn funeral" lol
True true but Trump had been quite negative about Mamdani on socials — maybe just a social media person instead of him.
my first assumption, other than Zohran Mamdani being some weird fucking fascist sleeper agent working for Trump, is that Trump is literally just trying to poison Mamdani’s image for liberals
because the dumb fucks in this country literally will base their opinions on “Trump likes him?” HATE, if liberal, LIKE, if conservative
That would probably still be a net positive for Zohran, he clearly has enough direct support that he won the election so his big hurdle was gonna be all the chuds in the NYC government I think. Remains to be seen what the situation with the NYPD ends up being. Trump was bragging about the chud commissioner that he’s decided to keep being connected to his family! Doesn’t bode well at all.
are there a lot of chuds in NYC govt? wouldn’t it be more democrats than republicans (both are chuds but the former are chuds who’d be more entrenched against Mamdani if Trump likes him)
The NYPD is a fascist military force with its own internal right wing vanguardist, explicitly white supremacist gangs (much like the LAPD). Obviously the city government as a whole is pretty much all dems but the capitalists’ footsoldiers are far right.
Not that the militarized portion of the government being right wing is insignificant but still i think that means Mamdani has a lot to lose if “trump likes him? Hate” is the general liberal response, especially since i assumed they’d already be working against him (and like, doing no research i expect 80% minimum are landlords)
i dunno gang, maybe trump being a third world Maoist wasn’t just a shitpost speculation.
I’ve been saying we have to face the reality of JDPON Don for a while now
Alright I watched it.
Everyone calls Trump stupid but I completely disagree, he’s got incredible instincts. He sees Zohran’s popularity, he sees he’s a winner, he sees the platforms he’s pushing are popular and what he’s looking to do here is use Zohran to attach himself to those platforms. He’s pretending that he wants the same things Zohran wants.
What Trump really wants is to be popular, and he will attach himself to literally anyone that can deliver him popularity regardless of underlying ideology. If Zohran improves New York, Trump wants to be attached to that too.
I think if he thought the Democrats had a better chance at winning in 2016 he would have run as one instead and I’m not sure if that would be any better but it would certainly be funnier.
Woke Trump would’ve been weird af, how would he have behaved during blm in that case?
“Folks, the cops, they’re nasty. Real nasty. I’ve been saying for years, ‘we’ve got to rein in these cops.’”
Trump: We had a mayor who wasn’t doing a great job… it went pretty bad. I think he can bring it back. He wants to make it greater than ever before and if he can, I will be cheering for him.
Finally, our plan to implement the US version of the ‘One country, two systems’ framework has born fruit, with the People’s Republic of New York as our forward base
I stopped lurking at the most perfect moment. I’m walking out of work an hour early than usual reading this shit and as we get outside my friend who is very apolitical sees the tears literally streaming down my face.
It was also a very grueling day and he looked all worried and asked if I’m okay and I just started giggling like an idiot straining to get out the words “you wouldn’t understand”
Never thought I’d get so much mileage out of this image.
They just need to fuse now.
Mamdanald would be their dbz fusion name when using the dance and Zorhump when it’s the earrings.
Zorhald Mamdanump
Just once I want a fusion to go “you know what? I’m not either of those people. Fuck you, I’m Dave”
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Imagine standing next to Trump and not grabbing a pen and driving it into his eye.
Both of them have usurped the openly hostile establishments of the parties they currently represent through the power of charisma.
If a smile for the cameras keeps New York safe from the administration, and helps differentiate “socialists” from “democrats”, then it’s absolutely worth it.
Mamdani is just so charismatic, he won over Trump like he won over New York
Hey guys, I just got back from testing out my time machine! I didn’t mess up the timeline or anything, did I? Anything seem, you know, different?
It must be so easy to grease up ol’ Donny, just bow before him and tell him how great he is and all is right, it’s so funny.
Or just tell him you want to build big buildings and make trains go fast, crime down.
I like this guy!
he’s like the son I never had!
What’s going on in Trump’s brain right now.
Barron is actually my son. So very, very good. In the future - could be president maybe. But too young now. Zohran is not my son. Also - brown and dirty. Brown and dirty is bad. But very polite to me. And I don’t know why but no accent. Why? And smart! How can he be so smart?! Plus people like him. I shouldn’t say this because I’m listening but people hate me. It’s true! It’s true! They do - even if I pretend they don’t. Barron still good but I could adopt Zohran and replace Junior and Erick. Never liked them anyway. Duds. Big duds. Zohran adoption very, very dumb idea. But good idea too?..
How about it Mamdani want to be my son?
No.
Well, maybe you aren’t ready for that yet, and that’s okay, we’re not mad, are we folks? No!
Barron: “I’m right here dad.”
Trump: “shit up Barron I’m talking to my cool new friend Zohran.”
I imagine he just asked trump if he misses old nyc or something and talked about broadway or whatever
Underrated comment. I could talk to a boomer from my very provincial hometown and even if they know I’m a communist I could probably get them to like me. People love connecting on those sorts of things.
Why is this happened?
Does the us president always do this for mayor elect?
Trump is treating him better than democrats do.
