Last week I was at the movies by myself to see Barbie and a big group of Hexbear users sat behind me and in the middle of the movie I opened up a can of beans to eat and one of the hexbear users yelled ‘Hey everybody, this nerd is eating beans!’ and the whole theater laughed at me. Thats why i will always hate you.
lies, hexbear users would never besmirch someone for eating beans
It was actually a can of cow milk.
Ew
Tell that to Bean dad
You silly Hexbear, that’s the fakest story I’ve ever heard in my life.
Why would somebody bother making a movie about a plastic doll for little girls?
I hate you for starting federation shortly after I made a second account specifically for hexbear
I agree with this tbh
Exact opposite of me, I was on Hexbear for a while and had just made a Lemmy account before Hexbear federated; now I’m not sure which one to keep (keeping both for now).
I support most of what is said here, but users from here tend to be very aggressive and combative. Everything is politics and pretending otherwise is very lib, so I can both understand why you do it and why people find it annoying.
We are aggressive and combative against racism, ableism, transaphobia or when someone is attacking one of us or our community…that is what gives us the moral high ground.
Those are literally the only things we have got remotely aggressive with on the fediverse so far.
and homophobia, and capitalism, and sexism and imperialism and colonialism and bazinga brain, most importantly bazinga brain
I only listed the ones I seen us dogpile nerds for since federating. Lol
You must’ve missed the 1300+ comment thread about a succdem meme then lol
Lmao I love this place and all you terminally online weirdos
Since @silent_water@hexbear.net asked for it, I found the thread again. I figured youd might want to see it too https://hexbear.net/post/385753?scrollToComments=false
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In the early days, this sub was constantly brigaded by chuds, terfs, libs, patsocs, wreckers and branches of leftism that were somehow even more online than us and had an irrational hatred of us for reasons that frankly I never cared enough to bother learning. Like any such place, that means we’re used to people coming in “just asking questions” with a bad take, and turning out to be a concern troll rather than someone asking in good faith and open to changing their mind.
This produced a culture of radical, frank struggle sessions, an approach to moderation that the Cheka circa 1919 would think lacks due process (and is good and cool and has made this place possibly the most LGBT friendly place on the net.), and a bad habit of dunking for a laugh. We’re not nearly as edgy as a first impression might give, though.
We’re hyper aggressive when it comes to certain things like hate.
This is then used by racists and bigots to claim we’re aggressive all the time. And because they say it ALL THE TIME it begins to be believed by people, even if that’s literally the only context in which they’ve seen our people get that hostile.
I don’t understand your in-jokes, but you infuriate the libshits and I find that very amusing.
the in-jokes become less obscurant with a little exposure. the rabbit hole goes shockingly deep.
This is the most correct answer.
Want to talk about outdoor cats?
It’s because we’re loud, incredibly active, argumentative, and most importantly we are generally speaking unified. Yes there are differences, but compare the pushback when a hexbear posts something pro-china vs when someone else posts something anti-china. We’ll get maybe 2-3 responses, all of which will immediately get dogpiled anyway. They’ll get 10 of us. We also all upvote the takes we all agree on, so much so that it looks like vote manipulation. No other group on the fediverse has that type of unity, even if they broadly agree with each other.
Also the giant emojis probably don’t help lol.
Democratic centralism is when I upvote every Hexbear post no matter how much I think the post is cringe.
TL;DR first because I got rant-y
Hexbear and Lemmygrad formed to be leftist first and individual interests second. So your take is spot-on. I also think that they get mad that Hexbear doesn’t have the option to downvote. So they don’t get the satisfaction of the power trip and makes them even more pissed off. lol
The funny thing about people thinking we are assholes is that between here, lemmy.ml, and lemmygrad.ml I have found this instance to be the most chill. I find myself more concerned about getting attacked on lemmy.ml for even trying to say something that is not in-line with the western media narrative. I am a bit worried about getting jumped on for misunderstanding or having a bad take on lemmygrad. However I have begun to be better at thinking about how I say/ask things when replying to posts. Which I think is overall a good thing and have better accepted that even if I may disagree with folks, that it is better to learn more about those things over all.
For all the shit that I am learning and seeing that gets said about here and lemmygrad. Those folks on lemmy.ml and the other instances are just beyond quick to just outright refuse to take a moment to consider that they are not questioning shit at all. Just super binary “good or evil.” Even if they agree that their “side” has historically both lied and done super fucked up shit. It is still unwavering “still much better than insert whatever shit they think anti-capitalism has done to so many people.” They completely misunderstand that us “tankies” are just dumb motherfuckers brainwashed into thinking that AES nations never did anything wrong. It also doesn’t help that even “progressive” liberals are so firmly conserned about being super slightly left of dead centre. To go around talking shit about how the hammer and sickle should be treated the same as the Nazi swastika. Still believing that the US is the reason we won the war. Nor do they realize how the Cold War was completely kicked off by the western allies renegging on promises made to the USSR for helping recoup. That the massive build-up of nukes was due to our own war hawks lying about the supposed rapid build-up of anything from the Soviets. Cuba and USSR are always the “war mongers” for putting nukes on Cuba, but the US’s shit in Europe/Turkiey.
to all our brave posters
Just before federation, when people were claiming that hexbears were a bunch of unrestrained feral super-posters and that we were going to change the fediverse, I thought that a lot of it was just people hyping themselves up. Only now do I realize that we are in fact the strongest posters on the fediverse because of our solidarity with each other. indeed
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The giant emotes (which generates a lot of animosity when combined with the dubiously low PPB-trigger-threshold of some of our posters when on other instances) are solvable issue. If the devs were so inclined, they could just run imagemagick over them automatically to make downsized copies.
I’m not necessarily saying they should, I’m just saying they could.
They could also do the opposite, and make them bigger
just saying
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The emojis issue won’t be forever though
and most importantly we are generally speaking unified.
It’s been a while since I did a sectarianism. I have a good reason to later today though
Because the rest of us don’t get your fancy pronoun picker.
You’re correct to be jealous of us. Although, I think we managed to port that feature upstream to the main Lemmy thingy as an optional feature? Check with your instance administrator!
They hate us for our freedom
I wonder if it’s because you have an in-culture that they don’t understand. I haven’t bothered to look it up, but like what is chapotraphouse? I think it was a podcast, then a subreddit, but what does it mean?
I don’t hate you tho, just saying.
Chapo Trap House is a leftish comedy podcast with three (later four, then five, now back to three) hosts that knew each other from twitter. It mostly commented on happenings in politics with regular segments going over the latest right wing bullshit, and was one of few places that would criticize the democrats as well. The /r/chapotraphouse subreddit was nominally for discussion of the podcast but it quickly outgrew that and became a general-purpose left-wing subreddit with a focus on irreverent shitposting and hostility towards outsiders. Fast-forward a bit and the podcast hosts remark that they don’t like the subreddit anymore because people were criticizing them for various things, but nonetheless the subreddit continued to grow. A long-running joke that the “official podcast of the subreddit” was actually an entirely different podcast called Citations Needed began.
/r/cth was getting too big for the admins at reddit (one of whom thinks he’ll own slaves in the post-apocalypse to give you an idea of their politics) and was banned for ill-defined reasons of “promoting hate” against slave owners (perhaps the reddit admin was insulted by this). In the aftermath of the banning, some people got together on a discord channel and a variety of volunteers got to work creating the website chapo.chat using lemmy. A couple months(?) later, chapo.chat was complete, though it forked from lemmy relatively early on and would be unable to federate for some time. A variety of comms were made, including /c/chapotraphouse, which then was ostensibly for discussion of both Chapo Trap House and Citations Needed, though this wasn’t enforced or anything.
After some time, the admins decided to change the site name from chapo.chat to hexbear.net, because they no longer wished to associate with the podcast. In a completely failed attempt to encourage the growth of other communites on the site, the default “Main” comm was closed. Rather than this leading to the increased use of other comms that the admins were hoping for, /c/chapotraphouse became the new default comm. And finally, after much work from the dev team, hexbear.net reverted back to lemmy and was able to federate.
In summary: Chapo Trap House is a podcast.
one of whom thinks he’ll own slaves in the post-apocalypse to give you an idea of their politics
If I’m not mistaken this same admin used to be a mod for the infamous jailbait sub too
This was back when being a mod for a sub was treated as a permission rather than a role. You didn’t have to accept it, existing mods could just make you a mod of a sub unilaterally. Various celebrities were technically mods of random subs by this (useless) definition.
Spez is a fucking freak but he probably never actually moderated the jailbait sub
There was a period where it was the biggest sub, so an admin would de facto be moderating it
In a completely failed attempt to encourage the growth of other communites on the site
This is revisionism
smh everyone knows that c/Main had to die so that the $
1200600 checks could go out the door immediately.I hope everyone remembers I made that post lmao, very proud of that one
It was very good
I wonder if it’s because you have an in-culture that they don’t understand.
Definitely partially true. Some people have read posts here and made posts elsewhere saying things like “they’re right wingers pretending to be leftist” because they can’t understand satire and irony without having it spelled out to them and they’re automatically trying to assume the worst instead of realising that the entire instance is irony poisoned.
the redditors whose most common reply on reddit was “/s?!?!” all moved to the lemmyverse
CTH is a podcast, the subreddit was originally about it but quickly became its own thing. The podcast is your typical Brooklyn leftist hot couch thing where you get a bit of theory mixed in with a lot of jokes and parasocial relationships.
A long running joke is that the subreddit/Hexbear is actually a Citations Needed fanclub, because it’s a much a better podcast.
Bout to become a blowback fanclub up in here
Chapo, blowback, trueanon this forum actually is just some kind of book club for podcasts
Don’t forget Marx Madness which is a podcast AND a book club.
You have a games community but zero mentions of either Excite Truck or Excitebots: Trick Racing
Your comment lead me to learn about the many sequels to the smash hit NES game Excitebike. I feel that I should have been informed of those titles prior to now, but the Hexbear games community has let us all down.
excitebots was the SHIT that’s at the top of my wishlist for switch remasters
Pretty damning TBH
Hexbear gamers, explain yourself!
I post about posting and game when I am gaming and never let the two mix. If I cant game about posting why would I post about gaming? Doesn’t seem fair does it?
You just posted about gaming
Nuh Uh I posted about posting about gaming. Checkmate
you have emojis i can’t use >:(
I hate you TANKIES because you MAKE ME READ!!!
Edit: oh shit I forgot to switch accounts
Tell me so that I can double down on those specific behaviors.
Being mean to bigots
Being uncivil
Being correct
Being smart, hot and sexy
this but unironically. I want to be as hostile and unwelcoming to libs as possible
Death to America
At first i was neutral on federation, then I was kind of opposed to it because of all the liberals, now that I’ve seen how angry the liberals get I’m extremely pro-federation.
They are jealous of our raw posting power. They wish they could be as cool and constantly correct as us.
they hate us for our freedom :no-oil:
I’m pretty sure everyone at lemm.ee is cool with y’all. I’m still not super sure why other instances want to defederate with you tbh lol
Well I am not cool with y’all. How you treat people whose opinions you don’t agree with can definitely be improved.
Lmao we treat people with differing opinions completely fine. Hexbear isn’t a monolith.
We just dont tolerate debatebros. I have yet to see someone engaging in good-faith discussion being mistreated.Smug gotchas, refusing to engage in the arguments you’re presented with, choosing condescention and the like gets you rightly treated like a condescending dickbag. Civil discussion is a two-way street.
I never refused to engage in the arguments. I almost always replies back with thoughtful arguments.
Lmao “thoughtful arguments” is when you completely ignore what is written and instead start talking about your opinion or the possibility something might be happening despite all evidence to the contrary.
There’s nothing thoughtful about your argument.
You’ve also admitted you’re just trolling, so this is just really sad.You have failed to engage https://hexbear.net/comment/3830376 and after this you kept spewwing the now debunked claims.
You have failed to engage zommeristleninist and cynestesia https://hexbear.net/comment/3830634https://hexbear.net/comment/3832154 antioutsideaktion.
https://hexbear.net/comment/3832142
From what I see the entirety of Hexbears are “debatebros.” They also hold one unified opinion. I have also tried to engage in good faith discussion but some Hexbears kept spamming self-important emojis that made me felt like my good faith wasn’t being seen. Then I kinda became like the average Hexbear for commenting out of bad faith. I apologize for that.
are you mad that you were wrong abt China? and that the only sources you had to back you up were Wikipedia and the fascist propagandist Adrian Zenz?
Last time I checked you had ignored severe users posting clear and concise arguments as well as well-sourced claims, instead choosing to be condescending. When you engaged with those users you ignored their sources and arguments, instead talking about what you felt like was happening or that your opinion should be respected - despite your opinion being one of propagating long since debunked misinformation.
Your *opinion isn’t inherently one that deserves respectYour good faith? Last time I saw you engage you ignored every source posted and either didn’t engage or went on about what you felt like or how there’s a possibility despite there clearly never having been one.
You aren’t acting in good faith.
If you wanna talk about possibilities a genocide might be occuring you’d have a lot more material to work with if you used the US or France or Ukraine. You didn’t though because you don’t actually give a shit about genocide, you’re just propagandised to hate China.
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I am not “deliberately trying to start shit with hexbear.” I did not defend war crime denialism. You guys are the ones defending the genocide against Uyghurs by China. You guys are defending the hostile acts of Russia. You guys are always attacking anything that is against the interests of socialist nations, regardless of how autocratic the regime is.
I also did not defend Nazi apologia. That is a very serious but untrue allegation that I would like to refute.
If you put yourself in shoes of the rest of the Lemmy users, you would find that Hexbears also sound like they are “deliberately trying to start shit.”
A UN Resolution of global south nations: https://web.archive.org/web/20220210055246/https://undocs.org/pdf?symbol=en/A/HRC/41/G/17
We express our firm opposition to relevant countries’ practice of politicizing human rights issues, by naming and shaming, and publicly exerting pressures on other countries. We commend China’s remarkable achievements in the field of human rights by adhering to the people-centered development philosophy and protecting and promoting human rights through development. We also appreciate China’s contributions to the international human rights cause.
World Bank Investigation of Xinjiang: https://www.worldbank.org/en/news/statement/2019/11/11/world-bank-statement-on-review-of-project-in-xinjiang-china
When allegations are made, the World Bank takes them seriously and reviews them thoroughly. In line with standard practice, immediately after receiving a series of serious allegations in August 2019 in connection with the Xinjiang Technical and Vocational Education and Training Project, the Bank launched a fact-finding review, and World Bank senior managers traveled to Xinjiang to gather information directly…The team conducted a thorough review of project documents, engaged in discussions with project staff, and visited schools directly financed by the project, as well as their partner schools that were the subject of allegations. The review did not substantiate the allegations.
Organization of Islamic Cooperation praises Chinese handling of Xinjiang: https://www.oic-oci.org/docdown/?docID=4447&refID=1250
Welcomes the outcomes of the visit conducted by the General Secretariat’s delegation upon invitation from the People’s Republic of China; commends the efforts of the People’s Republic of China in providing care to its Muslim citizens; and looks forward to further cooperation between the OIC and the People’s Republic of China.
Egyptian media delegates visit Xinjiang: https://www.thenews.com.pk/latest/430738-egyptian-media-delegates-provide-a-detailed-insight-of-the-situation-in-xinjiang
The recently published report also brings forth some interesting facts related to the religious freedom as opposed to the western propaganda. The report provides a strong testimonial by the visiting delegates who clearly state, “the in houses of worship such as the Id Kah Mosque in Kashgar, modern facilities abound, providing water, electricity and air conditioning. Local clerics told the visitors that their religious activities had been very well protected”. “The conditions here are very good,” said Abdelhalim Elwerdany, of Egypt’s Al-Gomhuria newspaper. “I could feel that local Muslims fully enjoy religious freedom.”
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Is denying the genocide against Uyghurs (which several Hexbears did) really that much better than defending Nazis (which I did not do)?
There is no genocide against the Uyghurs and continuing to lie about it is the holocaust denial you’re being accused of. You’re diminishing the term ‘genocide’ and making what the nazis did look as comparatively harmless as what China is doing. You’re doing PR for the nazis by making their crimes look less serious.
But you’ve had this explained to you a thousand times. You know what you’re doing. You’re doing it because that’s your goal, clearly.
You are doing PR for the Chinese Communist Party. I have nothing against communism, what I am against is their dictatorship.
My goal is to… well I don’t really have a goal. All I want to do is to make my opinions heard just like you are.
You can’t just say “genocide denial” and pretend you’ve won the argument. You first have to actually provide proof of the genocide happening. I could also say “the Dutch are being genocided as we speak” and then call you a genocide denier when you say that’s preposterous.
It’s strange how elusive the proof for this supposed genocide is.
I am not deliberately starting shit. All I’m doing is engaging in discussions by leaving replies to comments I don’t agree with. From my observation, this is also what many Hexbears are doing. When Hexbears do this, it’s fine because they “don’t have downvotes” and “have been very active for 3 years.” When I do this, apparently I am “deliberately starting shit.”
I am well aware of the fact that my post and comment history is public.
I did not defend the apologia by Zenz. You are deliberately misinterpreting my words. What I said was although his apologia were unacceptable, that does not invalidate his opinions on other topics. To make it extra clear, I did not defend the apologia by Zenz. I also do not condone what the Nazis did. What you said in your comment is slander and hurts my reputation. I would like to politely request that you take down the allegations.
Though Lee Teng-hui did deny the Rape of Nanking, the “war crime denier” was the first democratically elected president of Taiwan, which makes him one of the pivotal figures in the history of Taiwan. I certainly don’t agree with his viewpoints on the Rape of Nanking, but I still respect him just for the fact that he brought change to the political landscape in Taiwan.
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I did not defend Nazi apologia. I did defend Zenz on his opinions about the genocide against Uyghurs in China.
Yes, some of my comments are done with the aim of making hexbear look bad. But ultimately what’s the difference? You already look bad.
democratically elected president of Taiwan
lmao
Did I say anything wrong? Was the process democratic? Yes. Was he elected? Yes. Was his title “president”? Yes. Did this happen in Taiwan? Also yes.