• 2Password2Remember [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    shitlibs love posting that picture of the guy standing in front of the tank, as some kind of own, when if that happened in the US the cops would have gleefully run him over and then been made into a celebrity for it

    Death to America

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    Also here in the UK a large majority believe that “Empire” was a nice pleasant good thing that did nothing but good to the countries we merely ’looked after’.

    We call the ones that haven’t fully told us to ‘fuck off’ the ‘Commonwealth’ and hold lots of PR events like Olympic-esque games and ‘rich monarch waves at people who’s country has a GDP less than their hat largely because we stole all their resources before they could use them to develop’ tours.

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      Jesus Christ, do not ever tell an English person that you think Winston Churchill was a monster. Worst mistake of my life. You’d swear I’d shat on his mum’s grave.

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          There’s been a concerted effort to paint him as a heroic figure so that the blitz can be used as a rallying point for British nationalism.

          The Welsh curriculum at least taught me about the time he sent the military in to gun down striking miners in Tonypandy. I don’t think the English education system teaches children about any of the shit he did.

          The end result is he’s almost become a secular saint for some English.

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      I remember that old black and white footage of queen whoeverthefuck (victoria?) tossing little pieces of food to the ground for african toddlers to scramble for in the exact same way you or I would feed pigeons in the park.

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    thinkin-lenin On US education I remember in 8th grade the one thing I learned about Marx was one paragraph and was basically just “he wrote the Communist Manifesto and believed that history was a cycle of conflicts between classes.” And I was just like “Well what is communism? Isn’t that going to be important going forward?” I guess it wasn’t and I never learned what Communism/Socialism actually is or what the USSR did beyond “be authoritarian” until I was an adult.

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      You probably didn’t actually learn what capitalism is either until later, given that Marx is the most comprehensive breakdown of how capitalism functions, so much so that even the economics courses at universities use Marx for that part.

      The intentional avoidance of teaching how the system works is essential to making sure people don’t question it. You don’t want your workers knowing how it works, merely accepting it. Understanding how it works is reserved for the ruling class.

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        I remember I took economics 101 in college. The professor was explaining how growth is required for capitalism. Even as clueless I was back then, I raised my hand and said well nothing can keep growing forever, what happens then? He told me that would be a long time from now and to not worry about it.

    • I tended to have communism/socialism condescendingly poopooed as “well-meaning” but “never really working because human nature”.

      Anyways, time to learn about the french revolution and the reign of terror, which in no way should be viewed as an indictment of liberal revolutions the way the red terror does for socialism.

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        I remember almost my exact words when I was in high school “communism has a lot of valid criticisms about capitalism but their solutions didn’t work”

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    “Uyghur people are being GENOCIDED simply for their culture of having knifes to demonstrate their manliness (which the CIA used to agitate for terrorist attacks)”

    vs

    “actually US settlers were right to kill natives because they were scary and had sharp obsidian knives” :scared:

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    I’m convinced all the people saying that America doesn’t teach what happens to the Indians (besides the first Thanksgiving) stopped paying attention in history class after elementary school.

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      “this wasn’t my experience, so it didn’t happen”

      or you could listen to the people telling you otherwise, but why do that?

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      Yeah, my education didn’t cover who taught whom about corn. It definitely covered reservations and forced marches and murder and sickness. Maybe we can cover all of that in a couple of weeks and forget how much time it took and what was covered?

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    I just read to my parents about the Haymarket tragedy and the origins of Mayday, and how the United States freaked out that people all over the world began recognizing that day and in order to cut it off in the US they made May 1st loyalty day and used red scare shit to make sure nobody would demonstrate or do anything on May 1st here lol. They had never heard of any of it.

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    US PUBLIC EDUCATION HISTORY CLASS: And today kids, we are going to learn about all of the native indians, the Southwest Indians, the plains indians, AND the forrest indians. Are you excited to learn about all the indians that were here, kids?

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          Some states are passing rank choice voting which is a step in the right direction and will allow smaller political parties to win votes.

          hear me out:

          downvotes

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          Most Americans hate American politicians and the shitty things they’ve done.

          it wasn’t “american politicians”. it was americans. even if the government helped, it was common americans, poor and rich, who murdered and repressed natives every day until the land was solidly occupied. and while everyone in the country can be perfectly able to recognize the shitty things they’ve done, they’re absolutely incapable of admitting the terrible things they’re supporting and doing today. they live in a constant cycle of “oh we’ve done a baddie” into “no i’m not doing anything bad this time” into “oh i guess that was bad as well sorry” into “no i’m sure i’m not doing anything wrong this time

          the average american was evil back then and remains evil as fuck to this day, because that’s what not being an anti-imperialist leftist tends to mean if you live right in the middle of the imperial core

          • it was americans. even if the government helped, it was common americans, poor and rich, who murdered and repressed natives every day until the land was solidly occupied.

            Even so, there have been Americans who opposed what their country and countrypeople were doing, and fought to oppose it. Were they in the minority? At times, sure, but the American political system has always given disproportionate power, first to landowning Anglo-Saxon Christian men and now to (still predominantly the same group tbh) rich people and the people they get to follow them.

            the average american was evil back then and remains evil as fuck to this day, because that’s what not being an anti-imperialist leftist tends to mean if you live right in the middle of the imperial core

            If you view everyone who isn’t actively radicalized as evil then I think you’re losing touch with some of the very people that need to also be radicalised. The “average American”, when polled time and time again routinely profess to have viewpoints waaaaaay to the left of mainstream discourse. Is it not our job as socialists to get to the see the full extent of what it means to really believe in equality and justice?