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KurtVonnegut [comrade/them]@hexbear.net to Slop.@hexbear.netEnglish · 2 months ago

I think "North Korea bad!" is the final boss of American liberal brain-worms. It takes a lot of deprogramming to unlearn this truism. The country's survival and growth should be an inspiring story.

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I think "North Korea bad!" is the final boss of American liberal brain-worms. It takes a lot of deprogramming to unlearn this truism. The country's survival and growth should be an inspiring story.

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KurtVonnegut [comrade/them]@hexbear.net to Slop.@hexbear.netEnglish · 2 months ago
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Link to tweet for insane replies: https://xcancel.com/hasanthehun/status/2025372555507630495

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  • queermunist she/her@lemmy.ml
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    Here’s something funny I saw:

    In 2004, Paula DeSutter, the-then United States Assistant Secretary of State for Verification and Compliance stated that “we want to have lessons learned from [Libya’s disarmament] because we want Libya to be a model for other countries.”

    Yeah, we all learned our lesson. Don’t ever give up your nuclear program.

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    Before you think that Hasan just now changed his opinion on DPRK, he’s praised them for years now with some skepticism. He’s also said that other countries should get nukes as DPRK has, for development without US intervention. The longstanding meme of his community called “The hasanabi doctrine of nation building” says “get nukes”.

    He’s feigning naiveté to appeal to uninformed people. The time that he is referring to that he didn’t like DPRK was when he used to stream on facebook in like 2018.

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      I don’t think he’s feigning anything here, he’s just talking about how at some point in the past he had a different opinion and currently has a different one, not that it’s a new development

      • dead [he/him]@hexbear.net
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        it depends on how people interpret the apology form meme. if someone interprets the apology form very literally, then they might think it’s a newly formed belief.

    • invalidusernamelol [he/him]@hexbear.net
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      He’s been quoting the Belden rules for a while now

      • dead [he/him]@hexbear.net
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        brace and hasan are peers. they have collaborated multiple times. also both are repeated guests on chapo. neither of them own the idea that manufacturing nukes protects you from the US.

        In October 2006, soon after conducting the first DPRK nuclear test, DPRK Foreign Ministry said “The DPRK was compelled to substantially prove its possession of nukes to protect its sovereignty and right to existence from the daily increasing danger of war from the U.S.” If anyone came up with the idea that owning nukes protects sovereignty, it might be DPRK.

        https://web.archive.org/web/20061117055409/http://www.kcna.co.jp/item/2006/200610/news10/12.htm

  • BeanisBrain [he/him, they/them]@hexbear.net
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    “Cuba is bad” is the tutorial boss and “China is bad” is the difficulty spike that most players give up on

    • Dessa [she/her]@hexbear.net
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      “Stalin is bad” is the optional postgame boss

  • JustSo [she/her, any]@hexbear.net
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    lol

    • thelastaxolotl [he/him]@hexbear.net
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      how can you watch something that has no video or photo evidence?

      • Alaskaball [comrade/them, any]@hexbear.net
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        or has the guy that was executed randomly appear later after their execution on both video and photo alive and well

        • SkingradGuard [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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          Juche Necromancy is a power the bourgeoisie want to keep away from us.

        • invalidusernamelol [he/him]@hexbear.net
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          Kim Jong Un is AM confirmed

          • purpleworm [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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            I know it’s kind of a tedious thing to say, but it was the most important plot element of the story that AM is nearly all-powerful from a human perspective but still cannot bring the dead back to life.

            • Johnny_Arson [she/her]@hexbear.net
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              Who is AM?

              • WittyProfileName2 [she/her]@hexbear.net
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                The supercomputer from “I Have No Mouth, and I Must Scream”.

      • All Ice In Chains@lemmy.ml
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        Um it’s called the Mandela effect sweaty, and it’s all the evidence you need akshually

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        made-it-the-fuck-up

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    Nothing tilts libs like pointing out that America is a more destabilizing and destructive international force than North Korea.

  • GenderIsOpSec [she/her, kit/kit's]@hexbear.net
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    i dont think the dprk has ever had a bad foreign policy take, china could take notes juche-rose

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      The funniest reply is the guy going “how much did China pay you to post this”. Like motherfucker the fact they haven’t been invaded or couped like Venezuela proves exactly why they need nukes in the first place. God these people are fucking stupid.

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        They are shopping around. It looks like a lot of pro america posting is for pay, so they are seeing what the starting rate is on the other team.

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        I think it is better explained by chauvinism and racism

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      I think it’s important to recognise the DPRK can take the stances it does in large part thanks to Chinese support who can afford to shield them thanks to the more ugly realpolitik they do.

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    I think im starting to get why people love the DRPK, if this was the ROK they would make you pay ₩670 million just for the privilege of living in one of those apartments so you can slave away 52 hours a week.

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      It’s the single most misunderstood country on the planet. Of course it isn’t perfect, but it does very well for itself with what resources it has, and has always had excellent foreign policy. Its closest analogue is Cuba, and Kim Il Sung and Castro were on great terms.

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    I remember when Bush declared it part of the Axis of Evil along with Iran and Iraq. Like Saddam, North Korean rockets went straight to the top of the news cycle as part of the low-grade Manufacturing Consent radiation. It’s similar to the current anti-Sino shit that keeps popping up nowadays

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      Bush declared it part of the Axis of Evil

      And for some reason that was the kickstart of the DPRK’s nuclear weapons organ. I dunno, I guess it was just the Kims being CrAzy i-love-not-thinking

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    I remember thinking that the people who only ever lie to me are probably lying to me. It was like I could see the code behind the matrix.

  • Esoteir [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    Pyonghattan Project kelly

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    kim-peace

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    I still stand by my opinion that Hassan is cool and he’s someone we should be legitimately supporting

    • Dirt_Possum [she/her, undecided]@hexbear.net
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      There are pipelines that open to disaffected and fed up libs, pipelines that appear radical and posture like they’re “speaking truth to power” but that only redirect any real burgeoning radicalism back away from anything effectual, away from communism, leading the people in those pipes right back into liberalism. Chomsky back in the day, vast majority of breadtube, etc. Hasan is likewise one of these pipelines, with one end open to incoming liberals who may not know any better (like many of us were once). But he doesn’t put in the typical U-shaped pipe in the works, the “P-trap” pipe that shepherds radicalism back to liberal democracy, he actually shunts his followers to a place of legitimate criticism of the imperial hegemon and support for AES. He’s not perfect. He’s more lib than most of us here would prefer. But by god he’s one of the few big names in The Discourse that really is actually good for leftism, one of the few who isn’t producing an army of “anti-tankie” leftists, but a following of baby lefties who stand a chance of becoming comrades capable of learning dialectical materialism rather than scoffing at it. Yes, Hasan is good.

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        He’s not perfect. He’s more lib than most of us here would prefer.

        That’s something I also just haven’t seen. I’ve seen him play the role plenty of times, but that’s also just how you converse with people. No one responds to you insulting them.

        Once he has people in though, it’s all constant challenges to their moderate positions.

        I know that some people give him shit for AOC, but he actually talks to her and she actually listens to him… Like you’d be stupid to burn that bridge since she is one of the last of the old guard. Especially when you know you have a pipeline that nullifies the one she’s in.

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          it’s one thing for him to have her on his show or talk to her or whatever. even if he wanted mitch mcconnell on his show like that, i wouldn’t be saying anything. telling people they should vote for her because she’s gonna fix our problems is another thing entirely. she is a “P-trap” socdem; he shouldn’t be endorsing her or calling her “pro-working class”. she’s probably the least pro-worker of the entire squad, and that’s the most generous thing i can say about her. the time he quoted lenin out of context to make the point that we should vote blue no matter who makes him highly suspect to me too. and besides that, his stuff about men going to brothels is super libbed up. i’d be really disappointed in him for that, if i had a positive opinion of him to begin with.

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      what does legitimately supporting mean? giving him more money?

      • jack [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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        Think of him when self pleasuring

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        Dropping the “he’s not left enough for me” bit and realizing that he does actually exist in a position to facilitate some sort of change.

        Not as an individual, but as a sort of quasi thought leader for the current moment. He is very good at agitation and directing anger towards the system.

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      He’s been on a roll recently. azan

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    https://xcancel.com/KevinCastley/status/2025378158028148854#m

    That one hits close to home, we still have FEMA tent communities in WNC after Helene.

    The reply showing an apartment complex is also totally wrong. That is the exact unit in my town and it’s $2100/mo with a 10yr wait for the 3 units that are marked section 8.

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    Not sure why Russia china or North Korea hasn’t given Iran a nuke. Just one. Itd do wonders. Cmon guys what is the US gunna do to you? You have nukes

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      If I had to guess, there may be tens, even hundreds of sрooks posted on all known missile silos. They’d be watching every which way, people in the ground they’ve bought, spy drones and aircraft, even satellite images. Even if they managed to transport one, and no doubt that’s a whole other nightmare, Iran today isn’t where DPR Korea was 2 decades ago. Occupied Korea and Japan couldn’t or wouldn’t act with the same abandon as the Zionist entity.

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      Iran genuinely opposes nuclear proliferation and doesn’t want to build a nuke. And China also genuinely opposes nuclear proliferation, with an official policy of global disarmament.

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      Because the murderous ghouls that are the state of Israel would use their own nukes to turn Iranian cities into sheets of glass as soon as they got wind of it?

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      The YouTube channel “DPRK Explained” has a ton of interesting info in 10-15min length videos, from ideological bases of the country to public transit and urbanism. Cool stuff!

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      HIGHLY recommend blowback season 3. It covers the entire Korean war and will explain a LOT about why things are the way they are now.

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        Blowback season 3: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vwf0O0tC6BU&list=PLf03ejEKGKxwTQzFK8U_sGpZkUzV4KLmh

        Bonus: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4Q2-99oqj4&list=PLf03ejEKGKxz_18pujOXGSX1_PrDUW4MF

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          I found YouTube links in your comment. Here are links to the same videos on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:

          Link 1:

          • yewtu.be
          • inv.nadeko.net
          • yt.artemislena.eu
          • piped.video

          Link 2:

          • yewtu.be
          • inv.nadeko.net
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    • GladimirLenin [comrade/them, he/him]@hexbear.net
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      Radio Free Asia has some good content fedposting

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        • GladimirLenin [comrade/them, he/him]@hexbear.net
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          On a more serious note. There a documentary called My Brother and Sisters in the North, available on youtube. Also the Blowback podcast also has a season on the Korean War which is excellent.

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            Yeah the blowback pod season is my go-to for people interested in why things are the way they are in general but the Korea series is especially good.

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      I like Nodutdol’s toolkit, which goes over the background of Japanese colomization, the Korean war, and the ROK/DPRK. New movements like the 20x10 initiative are included, though it doesn’t explain the 주체사상 (Juche idea).

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      Patriots, Traitors and Empires: The Story of Korea’s Struggle for Freedom is a good book.

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      Also, the Proles Pod podcast has a few episodes going a bit in detail into the history of the DPRK, the particularities of Juche, and their governance system

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      To add just a bit more to what everybody else has provided: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3V4Hnl7J9H4

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        I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:

        • yewtu.be
        • inv.nadeko.net
        • yt.artemislena.eu
        • piped.video

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