Is there any set of circumstances where dems would ever take meaningful, organized action against The Party?

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      It’s so funny, every election cycle of my existence on this planet has been “republican gets elected, does whatever they want, democrat gets elected, it’s soooo hard to pass laws :(”, repeat ad nauseum. I have this uncanny ability known as “pattern recognition”.

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        Yup. Maintaining the status quo is easier than changing it. Even the tiny little bit Democrats try to change.

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          Yup. Maintaining the status quo is easier than changing it. Even the tiny little bit Democrats try to change.

          Why was Trump able to make so many changes? Was it because he was a better statesman than Biden?

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            The only people believing that Trump is actually a master of deal making is the Republicans and Blue no matter who peeps.

            Reminds me of how people keep going on about the charisma of Hitler.

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          Even the tiny little bit Democrats try to change.

          they don’t “try to change”, they expand on conservative policies while pretending that doing good things is impossible. They are controlled opposition. I’m tired of having this conversation every 4 years.

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            Just look at Israel. The Democratic party Hulked the fuck out, closed ranks, and absolutely shattered any and all opposition to the genocide. They are more than capable of exercising massive political power but for some reason they only ever do it for terrible things and never for “that great thing that they weawwy weawwy want if it wasn’t for those mean ol’ Republicans.”

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          Dont you libs hate Trump so much because he did some bad things? Did he not do things? Was it just the status quo you’re so mad about?

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            I remember when Biden first got in and Libs were saying he was a smol bean and us Chad leftists were pointing this out about Trump I saw several Libs saying “well to be honest Trump really didn’t achieve THAT MUCH while in office.”

            Okay so you’re admitting you just didn’t like the guy cuz he was a uncivil dang cheeto?

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              Why are you dodging the questions and instead trying to turn this into a dumb semantic argument? Could it be that a liberal has nothing of value to say? Boy, that’d sure be a first!

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        Since you evidently don’t understand how the government works, both Congress and the Senate have to pass a bill for it to become law. The Senate is intentionally designed to give conservatives more power.

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          I was going to vote for Biden but now I won’t because you acted with such brutal incivility. This is the most important election of our lives; democracy itself is on the ballot and you are turning people away from the polls before they’ve even opened. You are handing Trump the keys to the White House; you are ushering in the dark tide of fascism. Enjoy the next election, you have made it our last.

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          The Senate is intentionally designed to give conservatives more power.

          Huh, sounds like an indefensibly stupid and evil system we have here when millions of lives are on the line. Best to throw it out.

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          Doesn’t understand that liberal politicians only exist as controlled opposition to conservatives

          “You don’t understand how government works” smuglord

          lmao

          Why’s Biden ‘negotiating’ title 42 back into existence for them then? Why did he never codify Roe like he said he would, or completely fold on COVID when he could have taken numerous steps well within the ‘acceptable’ periphery of the powers of his office to do so?

          Maybe they’re just another corporatist party that keeps the mask on a bit better in public (as long as it’s not an N95 one, anyway)

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      The Supreme Court of the United States has already ruled that the president can extrajudicially murder american citizens, and that the Court does not have authority to overrule the President’s decisions on who they place on their terrorist watch list, AND that the president can drone strike those on the list without any input from Congress or the Courts. This means that any American citizen can at any point be murdered for being in the way of the President / Executive branch entirely legally. I dare you to find a more compelling political argument than “I can have your entire family incinerated from the heavens and you literally cannot defend yourself against that”.

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        I love my fellow hexbears. This is the only place on earth people understand this point and will bring it out to hammer in how much unrestricted power the potus has!