I will not condemn liberation theology, even if its efficacy may not be the greatest, and even if there are only about 5 of them left. I will point out that whenever there was a conflict involving any kind of progressive social movement within catholicism, the church always sided with the people trying to stamp them out. The catholic church would rather side with genocidal protestants than socialist catholics and it has shown this repeatedly.
And if we are to look at the legacy of liberation theology and so forth, why not look to the history of black protestant churches in the struggle against white supremacy? Why does one matter but the other does not?
I firmly believe its cultural cringe and this site being majority from protestant dominated cultures, same as with the opposition to stated atheism.
I don’t think anyone here is going to defend the historical record of the Catholic church. I think it’d be hard to find people who would say the church is a net positive force as it stands today.
What I see is a combination of people posting some decent takes from the pope on one single issue, and then laughing at the horrible right-wing reactions that result. The focus is on even the Catholic church outflanking almost the entire U.S. political class from the left.
I’m not disagreeing with you here, other than it’s not ‘cultural cringe’, as I despise that particular framework. It is a vestigial contrarian impulse, not born out of any particular historical examination.
It’s ‘trolling’ but trolling doesn’t actually build anything.
Actual apologia or “Papists are better than Prods?” It’s a definitely true statement for occupied Ireland where the Indigenous Irish are Catholic while the settler Brits are Protestants. It’s mostly true in the US too since both Catholic and Evangelical clergy engage in rampant pedophilia, but the Catholic laity has slightly better politics than the Evangelical laity.
i don’t want to tell you that you’re wrong but also I’m extremely online and basically have lived on this site since it started except for a few weeks long periods and I can’t remember any genuine pro-catholic posting?
edit: all I can think of is a handful of times where the pope (previous pope, even) said a good thing and people were like “pope said a good thing, cool” about it
Im not gonna restart old beefs or call out anyone in specific. But I have seen both people saying that they “critically support” the Catholic Church (not as a joke) and making explicit carve outs for the catholic church in arguments.
I think i even took up the argument once or twice, so its probably in my history somewhere. But I’m not gonna go looking. I’d rather be assumed wrong by the people who want to start a fight over this than start the fight.
You will find actual apologia for the catholic church on this site.
all seven actual liberation theology people in the world post here
They got new converts?!
People have a soft spot for liberation theology, despite it never actually accomplishing liberation.
I will not condemn liberation theology, even if its efficacy may not be the greatest, and even if there are only about 5 of them left. I will point out that whenever there was a conflict involving any kind of progressive social movement within catholicism, the church always sided with the people trying to stamp them out. The catholic church would rather side with genocidal protestants than socialist catholics and it has shown this repeatedly.
And if we are to look at the legacy of liberation theology and so forth, why not look to the history of black protestant churches in the struggle against white supremacy? Why does one matter but the other does not?
I firmly believe its cultural cringe and this site being majority from protestant dominated cultures, same as with the opposition to stated atheism.
I don’t think anyone here is going to defend the historical record of the Catholic church. I think it’d be hard to find people who would say the church is a net positive force as it stands today.
What I see is a combination of people posting some decent takes from the pope on one single issue, and then laughing at the horrible right-wing reactions that result. The focus is on even the Catholic church outflanking almost the entire U.S. political class from the left.
deleted by creator
I’m not disagreeing with you here, other than it’s not ‘cultural cringe’, as I despise that particular framework. It is a vestigial contrarian impulse, not born out of any particular historical examination.
It’s ‘trolling’ but trolling doesn’t actually build anything.
Most humane puppy punter award
Yeah it’s always pretty weird as someone from a rather catholic country.
Oh wtf I havent run into any yet the Catholic Church should be hated even more than the Protestants
Where
The website hexbear.com
Shit
Actual apologia or “Papists are better than Prods?” It’s a definitely true statement for occupied Ireland where the Indigenous Irish are Catholic while the settler Brits are Protestants. It’s mostly true in the US too since both Catholic and Evangelical clergy engage in rampant pedophilia, but the Catholic laity has slightly better politics than the Evangelical laity.
i don’t want to tell you that you’re wrong but also I’m extremely online and basically have lived on this site since it started except for a few weeks long periods and I can’t remember any genuine pro-catholic posting?
edit: all I can think of is a handful of times where the pope (previous pope, even) said a good thing and people were like “pope said a good thing, cool” about it
Im not gonna restart old beefs or call out anyone in specific. But I have seen both people saying that they “critically support” the Catholic Church (not as a joke) and making explicit carve outs for the catholic church in arguments. I think i even took up the argument once or twice, so its probably in my history somewhere. But I’m not gonna go looking. I’d rather be assumed wrong by the people who want to start a fight over this than start the fight.
deleted by creator
Where’s the links? Where’s the proof?