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    To everyone thinking this is a uniquely mean thing. Its a trend at the moment for people to “fent lean” to mock americans. It doesnt matter if its mean to fent addicts they got bigger problems and dont care about kids on tiktok. It hurts Americans because they KNOW its a problem and they are ashamed and they want people to either pretend it doesnt exist or pretend to care because thats what they’re doing(generalization). Its a great attack on Americans IMO.

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      It hurts Americans because they KNOW its a problem and they are ashamed

      You’re off your rocker if you think Americans spend much time feeling embarrassed about its tiny number of fentanyl addicts.

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        Those would fit into the camp of Americans that pretend it doesnt exist and they dont like being reminded that it does exist and its an American problem.

        Look at your comment for example, its not a tiny amount of fent addicts, your streets are full of them. I went to LA Precovid and it was disgusting people seeing people drugged out living on the streets being treated like its normal. There were 500k people homeless at that time, now there are 800k. You cannot sit here and say thats normal or say its only a tiny amount. Fent deaths have more than doubled since then homelessness is on the rise, drug use is on the rise.

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          its not a tiny amount of fent addicts, your streets are full of them.

          False. You’re making up stuff and have probably never been to America.

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    Americans seem completely fine with mocking and insulting Russians, Israelis and others, but when someone mocks Americans, all of a sudden it’s inappropriate to make fun of the general population for their government’s actions.

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      American here, I’ve never agreed with mocking the population for the actions of the government. But sure generalise hundreds of millions of people, anything to avoid thinking about your hatefulness and it eating your soul bit by bit.

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          Maybe I’m fucking tired of being told that I need die for the sins of others or suffer despite not doing anything wrong. Maybe I’m tired of the constant hypocrisy from both sides.

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            No. Fuck you. What YOU SHOULD BE TIRED OF is living under a fascist regime that is sucking the life out of you and everyone around you.

            Foreigners making fun of you should be the bottom of your problems lists. Again Americans just have no sense of priority ranking.

            Grow some skin you dainty delicate little flowers. Makes me ashamed to be American.

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              I AM TIRED OF IT YOU FUCKING IDIOT WHAT AM I SUPPOSED TO FUCKING DO? I LIVE ON DISABILITY IN FUCKING WYOMING. I can be mad at multiple things you fucking piece of shit.

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              Valid. Americans get angry at the wrong things. It’s a lack of Critical Thinking Skills being taught in public schools.

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      Israelis overwhelmingly support the genocide in Gaza. Bad comparison and bad take

      And that’s completely ignoring the fact that not a single person has even remotely approached what is being said about random citizens directly, about Russian or Israeli citizens. But yeah we’re just uniquely bad and evil keep telling yourself that

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    American here. The US fully deserves to be mocked, blocked, ridiculed, and shunned.

    I’m a Democratic Socialist, and have never voted for a Republican in my life. I’m as stuck with this BS as are the Britons who didn’t vote for Brexit. I laughed at the Brits while Trump was in his first term saying, “At least our fuck-up will be gone in four years.”

    D’oh!

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      Pretty much. We have been shameless for a decade.

      We literally have home grown Americans walking around with Nazi uniforms in the street. Like actually wearing Nazi signs. You know, the symbols our grandparents used to shoot at on sight.

      There are so many internal problems with racism, sexism, the economy, healthcare. But we are still screeching about America #1.

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        America #1.

        It’s #1 alright… just not where it matters.

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    Not American.

    Also agree it’s not great to reduce a nation to stereotypes and make fun of them. But, it’s pretty universal.

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    Among all the things you can mock the USA for, this is probably pretty low on the list …

    Besides, King Trump would love to throw addicts in camps. Only the poor ones, obviously.

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      I mean, as a Latin American I have my serious issues with drugs, naturally. Both as a market and industry, as well as a product that harms people.

      But I do think the US deserves to be heavily criticised for their hypocritical stance on both normalising and providing minimal support to prevent drug consumption or addiction, as well as crying about drug production, creating extreme violence and abuse which only affects them minimally and instead externalises the violence and conflict to third parties.

      So, I think rather than mocking the addicts, these videos are mocking what Greenland would become if they fell under US administration. A country that allows its citizens to rot under drug addiction and blames everyone else but themselves for it.

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    Here is a Google translated interview with the Greenlandic MP Aki-Matilda Høegh-Dam (member of both the Danish and Greenlandic Parliament) in the Italian magazine Espresso today (original here).

    Below my reaction:

    "Her discourse is very nationalistic, heavily anchored in Greenland’s colonial history, with a strong sense of recourse for wrongs received. She clearly has a painful tooth, which transmits throughout the interview.

    While agreeing in principle (colonialism is indeed a deep wound and injustice, and Danes - I know since I lived there - can still be arrogant notwithstanding the Jante Law), she has to make a choice and face the reality of Greenland’s extremely tiny population, similar to that of the small Italian city of Cuneo, therefore of an extremely limited amount of people to be able to act convincingly on an international level.

    Greenlandic citizens have at the moment a Danish passport, not a Greenlandic one, therefore they are EU citizens (which she doesn’t mention) while not being part of the EU (which she does), but part of NATO (she mentions this at well).

    Are they more protected as EU citizens (with Danish or perhaps Greenlandic passports in the future) or as US citizens (as a territory, which - let’s be real - excludes voting representation in the U.S. Federal government)?

    In the end her discourse emphasizes the fact that the dignity of Greenlandic people ought to be recognized, but what if the other future partner/owner couldn’t care less?

    I am afraid the Greenlandic people are no stronger internationally (and with regards to the US in particular) than the much larger population of Gaza.

    They (the Greenlandic people) will just as easily be ignored and abused in this new US setup as the Gazans are right now and as Greenlanders were historically in the Danish setup (perhaps no longer right now, although some Danish condescension remains).

    Many Greenlanders are now considering emigration (moving to Denmark mainly) or simply being sidelined. It is not the moment, I am afraid, for Greenlanders to just adhere to principles, but to simply chose the best option available, while heavily insisting on those results that can be achieved in a very short time period (to avoid being on the menu of the 250th birthday party of the Declaration of Independence on 4 July 2026).

    The best thing they could do is to align themselves with Iceland (population 5 to 6 times larger than that of Greenland but facing unfortunately analogous challenges), Canada (same as far as the challenges are concerned) and the EU, and insist on actions on those levels, which she isn’t doing.

    I am concerned that her position might be noble in principle, but disastrous in reality."

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      Aki Matilda Høgh Dam is a total joke who is using her inuit ancestry to parade around like she herself was ever remotely affected by the negative things Denmark has done in Greenland. Her entire personality trait is to cosplay as an oppressed inuit woman and she desperately wants to be a victim.

      I remember her making a bunch of posts after going to the doctor and being recommended to get the spiral which is very very common. I have had it suggested by my doctor too because I sometimes forget to take my pill on time. Aki Matilda went off on social media about how she was now a victim too of the spiral case which is a scandal from the 1960s where some greenlandic women had the spiral inserted without consent. She soooo wants to be an inuit victim while looking like this:

      I wouldn’t take an extremist like her seriously. At all. I would rather listen to real greenlandic people who actually live in Greenland and have sensible and adult takes on the Denmark/Greenland situation. It is complicated and I’m not gonna pretend like we were innocent angels who always treated the inuit right. That is definitely not the case, but we have done a lot to fix past wrongs and give the people of Greenland as much freedom and comfort as we can, to the point where they get more things for free via the welfare system than we do. I’m okay with that because they live in a very rough area and have many challenges of various different degrees so it’s the least we can do to make sure they have what they need to run a functioning society.

      Fun fact: Aki Matilda’s fiance, Kuno Fencker, was very much trying to be buddy buddy with Maga last year. Aki Matilda, Kuno and politicians like them are poison for the political discourse regarding Greenland because all they ever think about is their victim complex and their hatred for Denmark. There is very little rationality going on in those little heads of theirs and it is a total tragedy that their screeching gets a spotlight while the genuinely good and reasonable greenlandic politicians such as Aaja Chemnitz are drowned out by the extremists who go to Trumps inauguration with the greenlandic flag, livestreams their retardation from the white house and is called a traitor by their countrymen who were very much not okay with this unbelievably insane behavior. Cough, cough, Kuno, cough.

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          Your thoughts were pretty spot on, btw, but I see red whenever her name pops up anywhere. I don’t want anyone outside of the Danish Kingdom to think this idiot is remotely representative for Greenland as a whole.

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      I think this is unfortunately a fair assesment, speaking as a Dane. They want independence, but with a territory under so much pressure, it is unfortunately looking less and less feasible in practice.

      What is worse is that right now they feel completely sidelined, as per Danish national media. They see the American propagonda machine throwing out that a deal has been made, and they feel betrayed, left out, in the cold, unsure of their future.

      One thing is for sure though: we will not compromise on their land and their right to decide their own future. It’s a wild and weird situation. 1/3 of Greenlanders also live in Denmark, and vice versa, looking at the news while two small countries try to cement some sort or deal through high level negotiation.

      For now it’s probably best kept out of media though so our countries can figure it out without the orange clown dancing on our doorstep.

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        Thank you. Just for clarity: does your comment about it being a fair assessment refer to my comment or to the interview?

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    Oh, oh, somebody should let them know that the CIA recently admitted to intentionally fucking with the global heroin supply potency because they thought it would fuck up Afghanistan’s economy (allegedly). Because they assumed if people couldn’t get consistently potent heroin they would just stop buying it? (Allegedly)

    I don’t think the CIA has actually commented on fentanyl being added to the U.S. heroin supply when they were intentionally fucking with the potency of heroin, but “whoever” introduced fentanyl to the U.S. took care of the potency problem. Now fentanyl has replaced heroin as the most commonly used opiate in the the U.S… so

    So “somebody” was kind enough to offer a solution to the potency problem the CIA created by providing a cheaper and more potent synthetic alternative to heroin that can be made in a lab instead of grown in Afghanistan, and now that alternative is what dominates the U.S. market. Its weird because I feel like I’ve heard a similar story about the CIA and a cheaper more potent drug being introduced to the U.S. market before… 🤔

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2025/11/12/cia-afghanistan-heroin-poppy-seeds/

    In 20 years of grinding war in Afghanistan, the United States dropped a multitude of weapons from the skies: Millions of tons of ordnance. Hellfire missiles launched from Predator drones. Even the “Mother of All Bombs,” the most powerful nonnuclear bomb in existence. And, amid the more conventional projectiles, tiny poppy seeds. By the billions.

    On and off for over a decade, the Central Intelligence Agency conducted an audacious highly classified program to covertly manipulate Afghanistan’s lucrative poppy crop, blanketing Afghan farmers’ fields with specially modified seeds that germinated plants containing almost none of the chemicals that are refined into heroin, The Washington Post has learned.

    The covert program, which has not previously been disclosed, is an unreported chapter in the 2001-2021 U.S. war in Afghanistan and in the long checkered history of American efforts to combat narcotics globally, from Latin America to Asia. Its existence was confirmed by 14 people familiar with aspects of the secret operation, all of whom spoke on the condition of anonymity to describe a classified project.

    Anyway, heads up Greenland. Who knows, they might even try to introduce an entirely new drug to the market to replace one that’s already selling instead of just smuggling fentanyl

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    Cool to see that shitting on addicts isn’t just a shitty American thing. We aren’t as different as I thought!

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    Would be more accurate to act like they have diabetes but not everyone is a good an actor as Brendan Fraser.

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    Mock the US for being dumb… that’s fair. Fentanyl addicts are typically victims of the system though. You’re mocking the wrong part.

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      What you listed are extremely mild stereotypes that Americans have heard a million times even from other Americans. They are about as offensive as “French eat croissant” or “Brits drink tea”. And these kids clearly want to be offensive to Americans

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        You can tell this one really hurts us (us being Americans, not you and me) because of the reactions. You have someone on this thread threatening Greenland with CIA drugs.

        Like we look bad enough without this shitass reaction people are having in these threads.

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          The reason this hurts people on lemmy, who tend to lean left, is because it goes after the most marginalized people in our society.

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            Marginalized with little support, a very american trait, and exactly why them pointing it out as an overall criticism of “America” hurts. They hit the mark.

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              If you and every conservative american pundit are going after the same group, maybe take a step back.

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                You really can’t see the broader context here? You’re really incapable? They’re not posting to hurt the marginalized, they don’t care if they ever see it. They’re posting for the rest of you, as commentary that this is how you end up in a selfish suportless individual culture. It’s exaggerated of course but it’s packing some heat. Again, very effective.

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                  It’s exaggerated of course but it’s packing some heat.

                  You’re crazy if you think Americans care about foreigners making fun of fentanyl addicts.

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                  They’re not posting to hurt the marginalized, they don’t care if they ever see it.

                  The method they’re choosing to do this is to mock the marginalized. When you’re resorting to “the end justifies the means” to excuse behavior, it’s probably time to take a step back and really look at what you’re saying.

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          They are not punching down. They are punching up at the richest and most powerful country the world has ever seen which might invade their home soon. Are you really going to spend your time tone policing children from Greenland?

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              Insulting drug addicts. You gonna go after trans people, minorities, homeless peopke, prisoners next?

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                I think the fent lean becoming such a widespread thing America is known for says something about how Americans “take care” of their vulnerable population.

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                It’s some kids making a video that pokes fun of their would-be conquerors. Yeah it’s distasteful, I agree. It’s also hilarious to start tone policing scared kids facing threats of invasion for insulting those who want to attack them.

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                  Scratch a liberal…

                  We’re like 30 seconds from yall bringing back the “tactical <slur/homophobia/transphobia/ableism> discourse”

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            Yeah, that’s what american exceptionalism and “news” does to you.

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          Tone policing Trump’s next victims? Are you out of your skull?

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          I’m with you. I welcome all kinds of resistance, but this one misses the mark for me. Not because of anything being offensive, but because of drug addiction being incredibly sad

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              Sadder than being American?

              You mean the country with the highest number of immigrants? The one that most of the world’s immigrants want to be part of?

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              They go together. A lot of Americans are stressed out poor–destitute people just trying to make it to their next paycheck.

              That’s why we have weak protests and also why a shithead like Trump lying and saying he’ll fix it, has a chance politically.

              The wealth gap is wider than ever, and that’s going to be what finally pushes the country one direction or another. I’d rather that we didn’t have to collapse to reform things, but the billionaires probably aren’t going let reforms that will hurt their number happen.

              We’re gonna have to eat the rich, but it’s probably going to cost countless poor people’s lives.

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            All those school shootings are incredibly sad. Kids deserved none of it. And I don’t only mean death, injuries and trauma for kids who experienced it, but also the “combat” training and fear for kids fortunate enough to only hear about it. And over the years, US did nothing to stop it.

            Drug addicts are definitely a much better target for jokes.

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                Because I can’t understand how the same people can be oversensitive about others mocking their drug addicts and not riot about their kids being regularly shot at.

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                How is it weird? School shootings are peak American culture.

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      Sounds like its triggered you, and thus has worked.

      No, it doesn’t matter how its triggered you, or why.

      The point of trolling is simply to excite a response of agitation, indignance.

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      No, it’s just what they’re starting with. I’m sure kevlar school wear and reinforced chairs will make an appearance at some point.

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        because it’s not “american culture”. It’s people suffering and not receiving help. American culture would be big [DENIED] on healthcare claims but this is kinda lame.

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          That’s the quintessence of American culture: Not helping those people, but causing and making their suffering worse for profits instead. So yes, those people existing in large numbers is an aspect of American culture.

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          No, no, this is American culture.

          Its a very real part of millions of Americans lives.

          You’re just showing your privilege by instead prefering insults based on a part of American culture that is … more applicable to yourself?

          Maybe just less overtly grisly, disgusting?

          … that’s not how insults work.

          The goal is to offend you, and it has worked.

          The fact that you are offended by a stereotyped depiction that is being wrongfully applied to you?

          Yep.

          Thats a stereotype, thats what that is, that’s how that works.

          An innacurate caricature that is applied far too broadly.

          I guess you’re just not used to having a hurtful stereotype be applied to you.

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            Do you think it would be fair for some Greenland crackers to start calling Americans N bombs?

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              YES BECAUSE WE ARE INVADING THEM. JESUS CHRIST. YES. ITS FAIR. IT’S ALL FAIR GAME UNTIL WE ARE NO LONGER TRYING TO DESTROY THEIR OWN CULTURE.

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                Racism and ableism are never okay. Period.

                Pretty sus that you’re arguing in favor of white people being able to say the N word. You’re probably a racist.

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                  No. I’m not. What I’m saying is they think they’re about to be invaded, and possibly killed by this country, so the invading people don’t get to tell them shit. And regardless, it’s commentary on a society that’s allowed it to happen. And also regardless, stop trying to tell satire what it can and can’t lampoon. It’s annoying.

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                  … because all insulting stereotypes are unfair.

                  Thats… did you actually read my comment, the last 1/3rd ish?

                  Further, you’re not really even describing an insulting stereotype, with your new scenario.

                  You’re describing using a specific insult term.

                  A slur.

                  Can you see how that’s not the same thing as a stereotype?


                  I also find it funny that you would even use the term cracker to describe a white resident of Greenland… when … well, you would think that if there is some equivalent term in Greenlandic or Danish, it’s probably not the same term, or a transliteration of it.

                  You’re projecting your own cultural frame of reference onto another.

                  Meanwhile, also in this thread, I’ve got another critic assuming I am going to justify the usage of a ‘tactical slur’.

                  I’m not permaonline enough to know precisely what that means, but it is funny to me that on the one hand, one person is criticizing me for assuming I would argue in favor of that, yet I’ve also apparently offended your sensibilities, and you’re throwing out cracker, specifically as a slur.

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          So you kinda answered and reinforced what I said. American culture it is!

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      I could be way off here, but I assumed it was a dig at Trump who keeps using drug cartels and supply of fentanyl as reason to murder and invade.