The solution is to recognize that this electoral system is a complete failure and acknowledge that it must be completely done away with in favor of something that works
“yeah man the system is completely broken, which is why I choose to perpetuate it. It’s actually a super easy choice, I’m very smart for legitimising this system that I know is broken”
“I fully acknowledge that what I’m doing doesn’t actually affect anything, but I’m still going to shame you for not also doing it.” This is either cognitive dissonance or lying, which is it? Personally I think you’re just lying about acknowledging that the system is broken, because if you did acknowledge that you wouldn’t be so smug about endorsing that system.
I just got told something that people that are also voting are also doing, and they’re pretending like they are doing something revolutionary by doing those things while refusing to vote lol.
You guys are acting like leaving tools on the table is somehow going to get the job done faster.
What tool? The tool is a gun that points its barrel back at the wielder. Hell, you epitomize that tool-- useless save only as an art piece dedicated to the abject rot of the West.
I’m going to do nothing, which is the same thing you’re doing, except i’m not jerking myself into a frenzied orgasm over how good it is i VOTED for the LESSER EVIL
If there weren’t so many blue maga morons like you who literally will support the DNC no matter what the democrats might have to actually, idk, change what they’re doing, but you’re too much of a fucking brainlet child to understand that your vote legitimizes their politics and actions
I literally don’t understand how you can go through more than a single cycle of “vote for the lesser evil or things will get worse” where things get worse anyway without picking up some kind of fucking clue about this
Well the important thing is you managed to find a way to convince yourself that your laziness and apathy actually makes you better than people who are putting effort in.
Oh my god yes voting for the shambling corpse of a neoliberal lich who has presided over America getting worse every moment of his presidency is really PUTTING EFFORT IN 🙄🙄🙄
Good job liberal thank you for electing Hindenburg you’ve saved Germany!!
you managed to find a way to convince yourself
Literally the most ironic statement ever made lmfao like christ, please develop the ability to self reflect at some point in your life
Also since we both agree your vote is pointless, you aren’t doing anything either, so presenting this as if you’re coming from a position of action is both ridiculous and hilarious.
Anyway I definitely haven’t done any sabotage. I also haven’t redistributed food to the houseless nor have I helped unionize a workplace or other stuff. I most certainly haven’t organised with other leftists and done local stuff, most certainly not.
So to truly understand that this electoral system is a complete failure is to do nothing? Or is there an alternative I can do that you haven’t mentioned yet? I have seen a lot of people argue against voting like this “because it’s worthless” or “because it supports genocide” while I have yet to see anyone propose something to do that is more actionable or directly effective than voting.
It is better than voting because you will help create the world in which we no longer have to choose between red or blue genocide, and more importantly no longer need to hash these dumb online arguments every 2 years
The solution is to recognize that this electoral system is a complete failure and acknowledge that it must be completely done away with in favor of something that works
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Jfc how incredibly brainless, keep smashing your dick in the dick smashing machine while hoping that maybe it’ll stop smashing dicks someday
lol
the american has fallen in love with the system that oppresses them![emoji farquaad-point farquaad-point](https://www.hexbear.net/pictrs/image/0b72940d-3070-40a3-a37c-3ba5a0abf658.png)
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You acknowledge that your vote is performative and yet still chose to vote for genocide?
“yeah man the system is completely broken, which is why I choose to perpetuate it. It’s actually a super easy choice, I’m very smart for legitimising this system that I know is broken”
damn right, the only way to stop Hitler is to vote for Hindenburg, the lesser evil
“I fully acknowledge that what I’m doing doesn’t actually affect anything, but I’m still going to shame you for not also doing it.” This is either cognitive dissonance or lying, which is it? Personally I think you’re just lying about acknowledging that the system is broken, because if you did acknowledge that you wouldn’t be so smug about endorsing that system.
Genocide denier.
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A real "I don’t see YOU firebombing a walmart
" kinda take
What a meaningless reply lol
If you tell someone that what they’re doing is pointless, you ought to be prepared to suggest a better course of action.
What a meaningless reply lol
I like how you act as if no action can be valid other than
, I mean you got told here and just acted like a fool whilst acting smug.
I just got told something that people that are also voting are also doing, and they’re pretending like they are doing something revolutionary by doing those things while refusing to vote lol.
You guys are acting like leaving tools on the table is somehow going to get the job done faster.
Utterly fucking delusional lol
Have fun endorsing a genocide, you intolerably smug electoral fetishist![emoji ralsei-wave ralsei-wave](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/84cdbea8-1709-4269-b88f-88cea2a392e2.gif)
Have fun with your delusional accelerationist fantasies, раб
Wait surely Biden is the accelerationist candidate though, given that he’s a muttering corpse of a man???![emoji wowee wowee](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/3eefac46-14be-417c-8702-7c468459a2a2.png)
Edit: never been called “раб” before, fresh!
Calling anyone “раб” while having US system dependency hardwired into the brain gotta be the least self aware thing i seen in a long time.
The best way to push the dems left is letting them lose, otherwise they will continue to sprint to the right.
What tool? The tool is a gun that points its barrel back at the wielder. Hell, you epitomize that tool-- useless save only as an art piece dedicated to the abject rot of the West.
The tool![emoji gun-hubris gun-hubris](https://www.hexbear.net/pictrs/image/db768318-8548-45b9-b9e1-92bc4036a424.png)
I’m going to do nothing, which is the same thing you’re doing, except i’m not jerking myself into a frenzied orgasm over how good it is i VOTED for the LESSER EVIL![emoji frothingfash frothingfash](https://www.hexbear.net/pictrs/image/97c0eab6-88fe-4105-b2ca-63846b1258f2.png)
If there weren’t so many blue maga morons like you who literally will support the DNC no matter what the democrats might have to actually, idk, change what they’re doing, but you’re too much of a fucking brainlet child to understand that your vote legitimizes their politics and actions
I literally don’t understand how you can go through more than a single cycle of “vote for the lesser evil or things will get worse” where things get worse anyway without picking up some kind of fucking clue about this
Well the important thing is you managed to find a way to convince yourself that your laziness and apathy actually makes you better than people who are putting effort in.
Truly, you have this all figured out.
Well-spent political effort is when you wait in line to write “continue genocide” on a sacred piece of paper.;
Hnnnngggg i’ve hnnnnmmmm put in so much hnfffff EFFORT![emoji frothingfash frothingfash](https://www.hexbear.net/pictrs/image/97c0eab6-88fe-4105-b2ca-63846b1258f2.png)
Oh my god yes voting for the shambling corpse of a neoliberal lich who has presided over America getting worse every moment of his presidency is really PUTTING EFFORT IN 🙄🙄🙄
Good job liberal thank you for electing Hindenburg you’ve saved Germany!!
Literally the most ironic statement ever made lmfao
like christ, please develop the ability to self reflect at some point in your life
This is unfair.
The country also got worse for the 8 years he was vice president. You’re erasing a large part of his legacy.
This is unfair.
The country also got worse for the 36 years he was senator. You’re erasing a large part of his legacy.
No the important thing is that they don’t vote for genocide
Taking an hour out of your day to fill out a sheet of paper is not effort.
Genocidal scum
Also since we both agree your vote is pointless, you aren’t doing anything either, so presenting this as if you’re coming from a position of action is both ridiculous and hilarious.
Anyway I definitely haven’t done any sabotage. I also haven’t redistributed food to the houseless nor have I helped unionize a workplace or other stuff. I most certainly haven’t organised with other leftists and done local stuff, most certainly not.
.ee with a bad take and digging in
So typical
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Sure, but if you truly understood it you would realize that voting for Biden is exactly as useful as sitting right where you are.
So to truly understand that this electoral system is a complete failure is to do nothing? Or is there an alternative I can do that you haven’t mentioned yet? I have seen a lot of people argue against voting like this “because it’s worthless” or “because it supports genocide” while I have yet to see anyone propose something to do that is more actionable or directly effective than voting.
Better than voting would be to join a communist party and work towards dual power, especially in your workplaces/unions
I don’t see how that’s “better than voting.” Why are the two things worth comparing? Why can’t I do both? What makes voting inherently bad?
It is better than voting because you will help create the world in which we no longer have to choose between red or blue genocide, and more importantly no longer need to hash these dumb online arguments every 2 years
Voting for a genocide means that you are perfectly fine with getting your turn in the ovens later on.
I can see you’re very capable of complex and nuanced thought -_-
Stupid people like to look at simple issues and pretend they’re more complex than they are, so that they can feel smart.
Not supporting genocide isn’t complex, you’re just an idiot
How many dead kids will it take for you to vote 3rd party?
You believe in nothing and will get the reward a traitor deserves: a mouthful of ashes in your time of greatest need.
You could do both. The thing to recognize is that voting is nothing. Nothing is accomplished by voting.