This is not a question of about parroted nonsense and cultural norms. I mean what end product do they produce that justifies their existence in the first place.

I’m physically disabled and have been living in a prison like situation for nearly 11 years. How does my situation balance into the ethics of prisons? I’m on a path to homelessness and a premature death due to institutionalized neglect and abuse from US institutions. Criminals are housed and fed in exchange for similar isolation, abuse, danger, insurmountable debt, and a largely unemployable and destitute future. These seem to conflict in ethics.

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        No it (and multiple other re-intergration based incareration systems are more effective and socially health than the punitive system the USA uses.

        Anserweing OP’s question if incareration can be made more ethical than is currently the case in the USA.

        It’s quite on topic really.

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          if incareration can be made more ethical than is currently the case in the USA

          You go ahead and get right on that. Let me know how that goes.

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            Wow, so your answer is to… not even attempt anything? Just declare “nope, that’s impossible (despite evidence to the contrary) so why bother trying”?

            Let me know how that goes…

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              It’s clear that, in this case, the education system could use some updating, too.

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              Are you attempting anything? Because bitching about it on the internet isn’t far from doing nothing. What have you done in your life to change the US prison system? I’d love to hear it.

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                Because bitching about it on the internet isn’t far from doing nothing

                So youre saying “bitching online” does have an effect, since it’s not nothing, by your own admission?

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                  You know how 0.9999999999999999999999999~ = 1?

                  It’s like that. A rounding error at best. So yes, in reality, nothing.

                  If all you’re doing is bitching about it on the internet, then you are doing nothing and then acting virtuous about doing nothing.

                  YAY you have warm fuzzy thoughts and feelings! Congratulations you’re a “good person”!