This is not a question of about parroted nonsense and cultural norms. I mean what end product do they produce that justifies their existence in the first place.

I’m physically disabled and have been living in a prison like situation for nearly 11 years. How does my situation balance into the ethics of prisons? I’m on a path to homelessness and a premature death due to institutionalized neglect and abuse from US institutions. Criminals are housed and fed in exchange for similar isolation, abuse, danger, insurmountable debt, and a largely unemployable and destitute future. These seem to conflict in ethics.

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    With a few exceptions of life sentences, this is not how prisons works. We have prisons to separate the bad apples for a while, and we use that time to rehabilitate the apples. Its not a perfect solution bit it works better than without prison.

    Edit to clarify that this is about prison

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      Pretending that people get rehabilitated in prison, LOLOL

      That’s some LARP level imagination you got there.

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        Norway has one of the lowest recidivism rates in the world, around 20% within five years of release.

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          This clearly says US Institutions.

          I’m on a path to homelessness and a premature death due to institutionalized neglect and abuse from US institutions.

          This person wouldn’t be posting here if they were from Norway.

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            The question was about prisons in general, their personal experience being the basis of them questioning the ethicality of the concept of prisons.

            For that matter the Norwegian example is a perfect antithesis to the punitive American system.

            Therefore they were absolutely on topic. You may freshen up on comprehensive reading.

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              Norway is an exception to the rule. Not a generalized example. Calling out an edge case, doesn’t change all of the generalized cases.

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                    No it (and multiple other re-intergration based incareration systems are more effective and socially health than the punitive system the USA uses.

                    Anserweing OP’s question if incareration can be made more ethical than is currently the case in the USA.

                    It’s quite on topic really.