Imagine everything being in walking distance and clean too. China needs to be nuked.

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    Well there are many other democratic countries like that, Japan is one that jumps to mind. I’d love to live in Japan if their work culture wasn’t so horrible. I think Chinas work culture is just as bad or worse though.

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        I don’t really have a point. I just wanted to interact here because y’all still confuse me. Evidence of what?

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            I’m confused because I disagree with you guys on a lot, and I don’t understand how you’ve come to believe in what you believe. Also you guys use a lot of slang I don’t understand lol.

            So anyway I’ve just been commenting on hexbear posts occasionally to interact

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              Lots of use come from disaffected backgrounds, like we grew up poor, or we’re LGBTQ, maybe we simply had nerdy interests, or general loneliness. I’m also summarizing people I’ve met at local communist groups, lots of people with a great deal of frustration where the promise of western liberal capitalist society didn’t reach us. So we looked for other answers.

              That’s how anyone comes to their beliefs. They either fit into the society they’re from and believe in the standard ideology, or they’re different somehow and search out alternate ideology. Trans people I’ve met have been the most consistently leftist people I’ve known (with some exceptions) and that’s reflected in the userbase here. Trans people experience one of the most profound breaks from the world they’re instructed about and the world they experience, and it starts at that structural critique of gender, which leads into structural criticism of all society.

              So that’s where we ended up, we all have something that lead us to make broad structural criticisms. And then we found Marx, or Kropotkin, or maybe just a random socialist person in our lives who helped focus how we feel. We also very distrustful of western imperialism. And this website sometimes has a pessimistic attitude, but not always. Lots of people are here from all sorts of backgrounds.

              The slang stuff I can sympathize with, although most of it is rearranged leftist Twitter jargon honestly. I see leftist Facebook and TikTok etc using similar slang. Other parts of the slang surprisingly come from one specific guy, the speaking habits of Chapo host Matt Christman (treats, free real estate, chuds, just wanna grill)

              tldr: we experienced being poor/gay/trans/oppressed or we sympathized with that oppression, we tried to figure out where that comes from, and that led us to believe communism/anarchism is the way out of it

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                Thanks for the detailed summarization, it definitely answered a number of my questions. I suppose you also explained why I feel different from you all on the subject, given I’m your standard straight white guy in middle class America. The system hasn’t treated me poorly yet.

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        Well maybe I’m wrong but I thought they had a saying “996” which refers to working 9 a.m. to 9 p.m., six days a week. Japan has “Karōshi” which is death by overwork.

        I think if a culture comes up with a word or saying on how terrible the work culture is it is usually a bad sign. There’s plenty of evidence for both being true as well. For instance bytedance was on 996 until 2021. Now bytedance in particular has moved away from that working model but the point still stands, I think China and Japan have terrible work cultures in general.

        Both countries have a lot of work to do in this category.

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          996 is a fairly recent system implemented by companies - it’s not part of chinese culture, it’s capitalists attempting to exploit their workers, and has been deemed illegal by the Supreme People’s Court.

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      Do any of you rubes even think that much about election day? For all your worrying over “democracy” you never seem to get as excited as you claim when talking about real votes or your choice of candidates. Wonder why