It is in my opinion somewhat ridiculous that China watches this situation and does nothing significant. They could effectively end sanctions by themselves by simply commanding a few domestic businesses (with little exposure to western markets) to trade with Cuba. If the socialist countries will not support each other in times of crisis, who will?
Yeah. They are already being accused of debt imperialism. Might as well just ignore the braying from the Americans who have no interest in being unbiased to begin with
I’ve heard that this is more difficult than you’d think. If you look at sanctions against Venezuela, they were so comprehensive that you or your buyer get fucked before even getting close to a loophole like that.
To be fair we do not actually know what goes on behind the scenes. Theres a chance China has tried to do this and was somehow stopped by the US, or Cuba just didnt want to. Or maybe they do trade a bit but just dont talk about it publically.
Ya i agree just with the US being so close and China being so far its gotta be difficult to pull off. They could even deny entry to the panama canal for any ships bound to cuba.
when I was as in Havanna a few years ago, like 90% of the cars on the street that weren’t American classics to chauffer tourists around were Chinese made models I had never seen before.
Oh thats cool so there must be some secret trading going on then. One thing id really love to see is i know Cuba struggles with internet access and china has launched satelites for other places before. If China helped cuba get a few sats up in geostationary orbit above cuba they could help get more access to the internet, and potentially even bring them into the chinese internet and make a competeing international online space free of american influence. Like a internet of socialist nations. I really want Cuba to prosper hope things improve for them soon.
that’s an area I didn’t quite grasp, but it sure as shit seemed like everybody had some kind of cellular internet on their phones. none of our US phones could see their network, so we all had to cluster around hotels with wifi to check email and shit.
some guy showed me his phone and it was like they had some Facebook type of app with a wall and messaging, but am an illiterate cave guy with Espanol and it felt weird to ask if I could scroll around, because he was totally using it to meet up with women. older people didn’t seem to be as interested in it, but less technical people told me it was some kind of intranet system. which I get, because Christ knows what kind of BS the US would love to install on people’s phones in cuba to assist in their ongoing terror campaign.
but apparently if you were in school or some kind of professional, the libraries and stuff had “real” Internet connections.
nobody I met had a background in network integration or whatever enough to articulate how any of it was set up though.
Thats kinda cool they have their own networks i guess their access to the main internet could be limited by there not being any undersea cables that go to cuba due to sanctions? So the bandwidth is very limited and only used in certain places where its more needed? Would be my guess.
It is in my opinion somewhat ridiculous that China watches this situation and does nothing significant. They could effectively end sanctions by themselves by simply commanding a few domestic businesses (with little exposure to western markets) to trade with Cuba. If the socialist countries will not support each other in times of crisis, who will?
i agree, China should be helping smaller countries way more, one of their bigger Ls.
China could start an alternative to the IMF for instance, one which doesn’t force austerity for loans, the loans could be in Yuan
Yeah. They are already being accused of debt imperialism. Might as well just ignore the braying from the Americans who have no interest in being unbiased to begin with
They sort of do that when they build ports and stuff.
I’ll be honest there are a lot of situations that could be improved if China would fulfill their responsibility to the world
Feel like shit, just want her back
I’ve heard that this is more difficult than you’d think. If you look at sanctions against Venezuela, they were so comprehensive that you or your buyer get fucked before even getting close to a loophole like that.
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To be fair we do not actually know what goes on behind the scenes. Theres a chance China has tried to do this and was somehow stopped by the US, or Cuba just didnt want to. Or maybe they do trade a bit but just dont talk about it publically.
Fair enough, but a public attempt at remedying the situation could earn China a lot of goodwill.
Ya i agree just with the US being so close and China being so far its gotta be difficult to pull off. They could even deny entry to the panama canal for any ships bound to cuba.
when I was as in Havanna a few years ago, like 90% of the cars on the street that weren’t American classics to chauffer tourists around were Chinese made models I had never seen before.
Oh thats cool so there must be some secret trading going on then. One thing id really love to see is i know Cuba struggles with internet access and china has launched satelites for other places before. If China helped cuba get a few sats up in geostationary orbit above cuba they could help get more access to the internet, and potentially even bring them into the chinese internet and make a competeing international online space free of american influence. Like a internet of socialist nations. I really want Cuba to prosper hope things improve for them soon.
that’s an area I didn’t quite grasp, but it sure as shit seemed like everybody had some kind of cellular internet on their phones. none of our US phones could see their network, so we all had to cluster around hotels with wifi to check email and shit.
some guy showed me his phone and it was like they had some Facebook type of app with a wall and messaging, but am an illiterate cave guy with Espanol and it felt weird to ask if I could scroll around, because he was totally using it to meet up with women. older people didn’t seem to be as interested in it, but less technical people told me it was some kind of intranet system. which I get, because Christ knows what kind of BS the US would love to install on people’s phones in cuba to assist in their ongoing terror campaign.
but apparently if you were in school or some kind of professional, the libraries and stuff had “real” Internet connections.
nobody I met had a background in network integration or whatever enough to articulate how any of it was set up though.
Thats kinda cool they have their own networks i guess their access to the main internet could be limited by there not being any undersea cables that go to cuba due to sanctions? So the bandwidth is very limited and only used in certain places where its more needed? Would be my guess.
My hope is that’s what BRICS is gonna lead to.