• RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world
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    Ok.

    (I bet tiktok doesn’t shut down, but if it does I can’t wait for my kids to tell me about all the meltdowns at middle school over tiktok shutting down. Too many parents let their kids have unfettered internet access. No, mine don’t have tiktok.)

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    If you have $50 Billion, you can buy Tiktok.

    I read that Elon Musk might buy it. But the CEO of Tiktok stated that, it isn’t true.

    Why would he even need another social media? Besides, dictating what he wants on that site…and make it worse?

    I like when Jack Dorsey ran Twitter. It is a crap hole now on there.

    As for Tiktok, it won’t matter to me since I am not on there.

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    Any social media that you isn’t open and self hostable (Lemmy, Mastodon, etc) should not be used. That includes Facebook, Instagram, Twitter/X, TikTok, and more.

    Most social media has, IMHO, been a net-negative for society and I am in the generation that grew up with it in its infancy.

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      My one wish for Fediverse would be federated identities. So I don’t have to have baronvonj@<platform> for ever single one of them.

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          Lemmy sits a bit apart from the rest in that it doesn’t quite work for direct person-to-person interaction. Following Lemmy discussions on Mastodon is possible but clunky and Lemmy doesn’t quite know how to quiet all the @ mentions and things in comments made from Mastodon so they look really loud/busy. I can see Lemmy communities from Firefish but I don’t see any of the posts/comments (maybe I have to follow one first?). I’ve never tried following Lemmy from Pixelfed.

          But each of those platforms has a different UI. The experience and features posting media on Pixelfed is much different. But I still have to setup a separate Pixelfed instance account if I want to make use of them. And my data will thus be spread across those instances. And people will need to follow both the Mastodon and Pixelfed accounts if they want to see both sets of posts. I’d love to just hat the one identity to manage with my content from all platforms associated with it.

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      I second this opinion. The federated applications and communities aren’t perfect, but it’s less toxic and better to use in general due to the lack of an all-encompassing algorithm that guides your usage to increase views for ad revenue.

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    Just fucking get it over with already! I’m tired of hearing about this shit every single day.

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    Reminder: TikTok is not actually important. Everyone can live their lives without TikTok, YouTube, etc. There’s an infinite amount of ways to entertain ourselves and there’s a lot of competing apps.

    This isn’t the government abusing its power to shut down some small business/upstart. It’s shutting down a serious national security threat and a monopoly. TikTok has abused their position many times in many ways, refused to cooperate, and has reached the, “find out” phase.

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      I don’t entirely agree. TikTok isn’t just silly dances, thirst traps, and trends—it has played a significant role in community organizing and coalition-building across social movements. Consider the university Pro-Palestine encampments or mainstream news reporting on social media reaction to the United Healthcare CEO’s killing. Neither is solely attributable to TikTok, but the scale and nature of discussion on the platform have demonstrably influenced real-world conversation and activism. Another example is Keith Lee’s viral restaurant reviews transforming the viability of small mom and pop businesses overnight.

      What sets TikTok apart isn’t just its massive reach (150 million monthly active users, nearly half the US population) but also its algorithm and features that enable collaborative, asynchronous discussion. Unlike YouTube Shorts or Instagram Reels, where content is mostly one-off entertainment with fleeting comment sections, TikTok fosters actual conversations. Features like stitching allow users to directly respond to others, creating an evolving discourse where users can trace context. At times, entire feeds become dominated by discussion of a single topic—sometimes celebrity gossip, but often major events like October 7 or the United Healthcare CEO killing. This level of organic, large-scale discourse doesn’t happen the same way on other platforms. A great example of this dynamic was when TikTok users collectively decided to migrate to the actually Chinese app XiaoHongShu specifically to spite the US government. That didn’t just happen—it was discussed and coordinated.

      In my view, TikTok is a national security threat not because of unproven claims about data leaks or state-authored propaganda, but because it provides an already restless and dissatisfied population with a real platform to discuss issues and organize. If a decentralized, open-source alternative existed at scale, TikTok itself wouldn’t be necessary. I acknowledge that TikTok—like any centralized platform—has real issues, particularly around privacy and censorship. But until such a decentralized alternative gains traction, TikTok remains important. And even then, I doubt the US government would be any more comfortable with a decentralized version, since it still wouldn’t give them control over what discussions take place.

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      Everyone can live their lives without TikTok, YouTube…

      I was an adult before YT and I don’t want to go back to a time before it existed. It’s just too damn useful as a self education tool. Need to learn how to DIY a plumbing problem? Youtube. Need to learn how to subnet a network? Youtube. Interested in the History of Moldova? Youtube.

      I finished my basement by watching youtube videos and learning how to do everything from framing to electrical to drywall to finishing work. There isn’t anywhere else you can freely get the same breadth of knowledge on-demand.

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      There is a false dichotomy on Lemmy, that the government should shut down Meta due to security threats too because of this. They can both be bad.

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      Reminder: there’s an ongoing trade war between US and China and this is likely just a part of it.

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      I’ve never even looked at it. Vine was pretty cool but then it died, Periscope was neat, but I dunno, something about Tiktok feels predatory, how addictive it is (from what I’ve seen of others using it).

      Plus while they’re all as bad as each other, I still trust China less than Microsoft with my stuff, so yeah. I’m just not interested in it and don’t really see the appeal for myself. But I see why it’s popular and it’s not like, terrible, as a concept.

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    That would go beyond the ban’s requirement for app stores to stop offering downloads of the app, but not immediately halt use of it.

    Before the tankies get mad about the “censorship” of the US while failing to mention the LONG list of things you can get straight up arrested for in China

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      Or have a “tea drinking” session:

      When I was able to speak to Ms. Wu about the “tea drinking” session (euphemism for police harassment), she sharply conveyed her sense of vulnerability due to the lack of interest in her stepping away from her popular Twitter account, stating,

      Literally the only thing that was keeping me online for the past few years was they were worried it would make China look bad if they cracked down on me. Now that they know that I could be dead in a ditch tomorrow and no one would give a shit or say a word I’m 1000x less safe here.

      […]

      Wu added,

      After years of doing this without anyone saying anything, on June 30th, out of the blue, they send plainclothes thugs to my house. Surprise! They were real cops.

      Why? because she’s LGBTQ+, has a Uyghur partner, and has some friends in Western nations.

      reference: https://www.hackingbutlegal.com/p/naomi-wu-and-the-silence-that-speaks-volumes

      https://x.com/RealSexyCyborg/status/1177145458503737344

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    TikTok might start being not shit after this, but I’m not risking exposure until I have confirmation

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    Is Loops ready for wide scale adoption and federation yet? We kinda need a replacement for tiktok, otherwise the addicts will jump to yet another Chinese platform.

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      Doesn’t look like it to me. I tried to sign up yesterday and haven’t received the validation email.

      Edit: and the UI was very barren and minimal on the video I watched.

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      Is Loops ready for wide scale adoption and federation yet

      Nowhere near imo. Download the app and see for yourself. It needs WORK.

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      Yes but diversity is good 👍

      Why let the Chinese get all the eyeballs for propaganda? Surely we should give other nations a chance?

      IMHO they should shut down every app that is both popular and has an exceedingly difficult to penetrate monopoly. Let the competitors rush in and do a it again when the same situation occurs!

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      Good! Hopefully one of those other apps is federated and free from any hostile interests.

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      I have my doubts that any app will collect the user base back together ever again. I may be wrong, but once TikTok is gone, people will splinter to different apps that are nowhere near as popular.

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        funny, that not one has been euro/asian/african centric so far, that has gained enough momentum or content to peak your interest yet, lol

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          If you know of an English speaking socisl network with those characteristics, do let me know