I don’t know why this really got to me, but I started playing Return to Moria and finally started watching “The Rings of Power”. So I was sort of steeping myself in Lord of The Rings stuff.
Then I listened to The Dollop on JD Vance, one of the recent Chapo episodes and now Behind The bastards as well all talking about these rightwing weirdos who all worship Lord of The Rings and Tolkien, and somehow that means you be a TradCath and how all of them think they are the harbingers of a Fifth Age or something.
The link actually goes back to the 70s, where the Italian fascist parties would have Lord of the Rings-themed youth camps to try to piggyback on the books’ success.
Ages in Tolkien aren’t really something that lines up with technological progress in the way we consider things like the Bronze Age and the Iron Age, and that concept of technological ages is kinda BS anyway. In Tolkien’s legendarium, Ages are considered started and ended by major events as decided primarily by the Elves of Middle Earth - the removal of Morgoth from the world, the fall of Numenor, the defeat of Sauron, and, much later, the birth of Christ.
that concept of technological ages is kinda BS anyway
but for real, human history is like Mid Seier’s Civilization and once a technology is unlocked it will now be used in every city forever until the next one is researched. and our stories should also be like this.
yeah it’s pretty silly to connect a “serious” fantasy world with the “real” world, but most creation myths take place in a fantasy world but has a direct lineage (via mythological rulers -> semi-mythological -> real rulers etc) to actual history. i guess that’s what he was trying to do?
Lmao. How do CHUDs see that and not think that they’re the elves at best, but most likely they’re the orcs?
(Not that they’d take offense to being compared to either, they’ll see the former as beautiful blonde people who are rightfully confident in themselves, and the latter as a fierce, badass warrior-race that knows morals are for the weak: only strength matters.)
I don’t know why this really got to me, but I started playing Return to Moria and finally started watching “The Rings of Power”. So I was sort of steeping myself in Lord of The Rings stuff.
Then I listened to The Dollop on JD Vance, one of the recent Chapo episodes and now Behind The bastards as well all talking about these rightwing weirdos who all worship Lord of The Rings and Tolkien, and somehow that means you be a TradCath and how all of them think they are the harbingers of a Fifth Age or something.
The link actually goes back to the 70s, where the Italian fascist parties would have Lord of the Rings-themed youth camps to try to piggyback on the books’ success.
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Kinda related, a “human elf” from Milei party was threatening him with releasing incriminating videos.
Age-wise, the lore is that the Seventh Age started with the birth of Christ
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Ages in Tolkien aren’t really something that lines up with technological progress in the way we consider things like the Bronze Age and the Iron Age, and that concept of technological ages is kinda BS anyway. In Tolkien’s legendarium, Ages are considered started and ended by major events as decided primarily by the Elves of Middle Earth - the removal of Morgoth from the world, the fall of Numenor, the defeat of Sauron, and, much later, the birth of Christ.
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but for real, human history is like Mid Seier’s Civilization and once a technology is unlocked it will now be used in every city forever until the next one is researched. and our stories should also be like this.
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yeah it’s pretty silly to connect a “serious” fantasy world with the “real” world, but most creation myths take place in a fantasy world but has a direct lineage (via mythological rulers -> semi-mythological -> real rulers etc) to actual history. i guess that’s what he was trying to do?
Lmao. How do CHUDs see that and not think that they’re the elves at best, but most likely they’re the orcs?
(Not that they’d take offense to being compared to either, they’ll see the former as beautiful blonde people who are rightfully confident in themselves, and the latter as a fierce, badass warrior-race that knows morals are for the weak: only strength matters.)