History started in 2022, Ukraine wasn’t shelling Donbass or threatening genocide of Russian speakers or overthrowing their elected president with a CIA plant no sir.
China’s genocide
Imagine believing this, I don’t even know how to engage with this because anyone that still believes this will never respond to any amount of evidence showing that Uighurs are living longer and better lives than ever before (as is the trend in all of China), or how Adrian zenz believes he’s sent by God to destroy China, or how despite having a practically undefended border with central Asian countries that there has been 0 refugees, or how foreign bloggers continue to show people in Xinjiang just living their lives and being happy, or how not a single piece of evidence has come out of concentration camps (unless you mean the Taiwanese bdsm club or the picture of prisoners in a regular prison), or how Han nationalists in China actively complain about how good Uighurs have it with the affirmative action programs, or how Chinese state media continues to show Uighur people and culture despite supposedly wanting them all dead, or how every article on this shit is sourced from American state controlled corporate media.
I‘m open to discussion. I don’t believe China is committing a genocide or that Russia’s “aggression” had nothing to do with the US. Do you have arguments/sources refuting this? Also they responded to what you had to say, it’s already a discussion. If you can explain why OP is wrong, then do it.
The only moral justification I can think of would be that Russia must be a great power, so it’s morally good for it to fund forcefully expand it’s sphere of influence.
The primary reason for the invasion was NATO encroachmemt and threats of Ukraine joining NATO. This prompted an invasion because the Russian Federadtion has border disputes with Ukraine, which it would have no recourse to address if Ukraine joined NATO as then conflict would or at least very seriously could lead to nuclear conflict. Essentially, they’re settling long standing border disputes that have been ongoing, and which the US/NATO have been heavily involved in creating conflict.
The US has been setting up Ukraine a proxy battlefield in its larger conflict against the Russian Federation. The US does not have access to extract value from Russuan territory like it did before Putin and a coalition of national bourgeois allies kicked out the US collaborating bourgois of the Yelstin coalition. This is the source of conflict between the US and the Russian Federation. The US as the global imperial hegemon presides over a system of extraction and exploitation of the imperial periphery. US state enemies are all nations that have refused to submit to this system.
I’m not claiming any moral justification, I’m not claiming support of the action. But that’s the rationale that led the Russian Federation to invade.
I am a communist. I do not support the capitalist and socially reactionary government of the Russian Federation. But i do have a degree of critical support for the Russian Federations struggle against US hegemony. This statement applies to other nations that have non socislist governments but struggle against US hegemony and therefore often trade or support socialist states, such as Iran.
I don’t support the governments of the US any NATO country, Ukraine, or the Russian Federation. I support the international working class of all these countries which did not start nor deserve this war, or any other perpetrated by the ruling classes. I want this war to end, and people to stop dying.
The main reason that this war continues is the insistence of the US whose “aid” is prolonging the war and killing more Ukrainians who do not need to be dying. The US has been playing out its battle with Russia, and has been discplining its NATO “allies” who were becoming energy independent from the US by trading with Russia.
I oppose the US and its aims primarily because it is the global imperialist hegemon. As a communist i oppose this global system of capital and any defeats to this system are of benefit to humanity
History started in 2022, Ukraine wasn’t shelling Donbass or threatening genocide of Russian speakers or overthrowing their elected president with a CIA plant no sir.
Imagine believing this, I don’t even know how to engage with this because anyone that still believes this will never respond to any amount of evidence showing that Uighurs are living longer and better lives than ever before (as is the trend in all of China), or how Adrian zenz believes he’s sent by God to destroy China, or how despite having a practically undefended border with central Asian countries that there has been 0 refugees, or how foreign bloggers continue to show people in Xinjiang just living their lives and being happy, or how not a single piece of evidence has come out of concentration camps (unless you mean the Taiwanese bdsm club or the picture of prisoners in a regular prison), or how Han nationalists in China actively complain about how good Uighurs have it with the affirmative action programs, or how Chinese state media continues to show Uighur people and culture despite supposedly wanting them all dead, or how every article on this shit is sourced from American state controlled corporate media.
Oh so your one of them too.
Are you open to a discussion? I’d love to have one, but only if your open to it.
I‘m open to discussion. I don’t believe China is committing a genocide or that Russia’s “aggression” had nothing to do with the US. Do you have arguments/sources refuting this? Also they responded to what you had to say, it’s already a discussion. If you can explain why OP is wrong, then do it.
Sure. Let’s talk Russia first. Does Russia have a moral obligation to be a great power?
The only moral justification I can think of would be that Russia must be a great power, so it’s morally good for it to fund forcefully expand it’s sphere of influence.
What moral justification does Russia have for invading Ukraine?
The primary reason for the invasion was NATO encroachmemt and threats of Ukraine joining NATO. This prompted an invasion because the Russian Federadtion has border disputes with Ukraine, which it would have no recourse to address if Ukraine joined NATO as then conflict would or at least very seriously could lead to nuclear conflict. Essentially, they’re settling long standing border disputes that have been ongoing, and which the US/NATO have been heavily involved in creating conflict.
The US has been setting up Ukraine a proxy battlefield in its larger conflict against the Russian Federation. The US does not have access to extract value from Russuan territory like it did before Putin and a coalition of national bourgeois allies kicked out the US collaborating bourgois of the Yelstin coalition. This is the source of conflict between the US and the Russian Federation. The US as the global imperial hegemon presides over a system of extraction and exploitation of the imperial periphery. US state enemies are all nations that have refused to submit to this system.
I’m not claiming any moral justification, I’m not claiming support of the action. But that’s the rationale that led the Russian Federation to invade.
I am a communist. I do not support the capitalist and socially reactionary government of the Russian Federation. But i do have a degree of critical support for the Russian Federations struggle against US hegemony. This statement applies to other nations that have non socislist governments but struggle against US hegemony and therefore often trade or support socialist states, such as Iran.
I don’t support the governments of the US any NATO country, Ukraine, or the Russian Federation. I support the international working class of all these countries which did not start nor deserve this war, or any other perpetrated by the ruling classes. I want this war to end, and people to stop dying.
The main reason that this war continues is the insistence of the US whose “aid” is prolonging the war and killing more Ukrainians who do not need to be dying. The US has been playing out its battle with Russia, and has been discplining its NATO “allies” who were becoming energy independent from the US by trading with Russia.
I oppose the US and its aims primarily because it is the global imperialist hegemon. As a communist i oppose this global system of capital and any defeats to this system are of benefit to humanity