The primary reason for the invasion was NATO encroachmemt and threats of Ukraine joining NATO. This prompted an invasion because the Russian Federadtion has border disputes with Ukraine, which it would have no recourse to address if Ukraine joined NATO as then conflict would or at least very seriously could lead to nuclear conflict. Essentially, they’re settling long standing border disputes that have been ongoing, and which the US/NATO have been heavily involved in creating conflict.
The US has been setting up Ukraine a proxy battlefield in its larger conflict against the Russian Federation. The US does not have access to extract value from Russuan territory like it did before Putin and a coalition of national bourgeois allies kicked out the US collaborating bourgois of the Yelstin coalition. This is the source of conflict between the US and the Russian Federation. The US as the global imperial hegemon presides over a system of extraction and exploitation of the imperial periphery. US state enemies are all nations that have refused to submit to this system.
I’m not claiming any moral justification, I’m not claiming support of the action. But that’s the rationale that led the Russian Federation to invade.
I am a communist. I do not support the capitalist and socially reactionary government of the Russian Federation. But i do have a degree of critical support for the Russian Federations struggle against US hegemony. This statement applies to other nations that have non socislist governments but struggle against US hegemony and therefore often trade or support socialist states, such as Iran.
I don’t support the governments of the US any NATO country, Ukraine, or the Russian Federation. I support the international working class of all these countries which did not start nor deserve this war, or any other perpetrated by the ruling classes. I want this war to end, and people to stop dying.
The main reason that this war continues is the insistence of the US whose “aid” is prolonging the war and killing more Ukrainians who do not need to be dying. The US has been playing out its battle with Russia, and has been discplining its NATO “allies” who were becoming energy independent from the US by trading with Russia.
I oppose the US and its aims primarily because it is the global imperialist hegemon. As a communist i oppose this global system of capital and any defeats to this system are of benefit to humanity
— The Council for Foreign Relations rose to prominence in the 1930’s, after receiving millions of dollars in donations from the Ford and Rockefeller Foundations. A subset within the Council known as the “security and armaments group” was lead by Allen Dulles, who would later go on to become the director of the CIA. 57% of United States government officials were members of the Council during Lyndon B. Johnson’s presidency, leading many of the Councils “non-partisan” beliefs to almost-exclusively reflect those of the sitting government. In 1979, David Rockefeller — then-chairman of the Council — used his position to pressure Jimmy Carter to admit the Shah of Iran into an American hospital to be treated for lymphoma, enraging Iranians who believed this was a sign of a coming US-backed coup; the Iran Hostage Crisis began just thirteen days later.
— You’re citing atrocity propaganda about the current largest enemy of the United States as written by a group directly funded by United States military intelligence and posing it as a legitimate source. The Council for Foreign Relations have been documented to have directly incited multiple international diplomatic incidents and have solved none. Other sources you’ve linked elsewhere in the thread have suffered similar problems; the CFR has direct funding from the CIA, the Jamestown Foundation has direct funding from the Department of Defense, the ASPI has direct funding from Northrop Grumman and Lockheed Martin. All of these groups that you cite demonstrate clear conflicts of interest when they publish articles that are frothingly anti-China while filling their pockets with money from those who want nothing more than a casus belli to try dismantling China.
A response to my multitude of points that I collected for a week in this source is… an article from a single Washington think tank with deep ties to the U.S. state department (almost all members have held positions in the U.S. government).
The article repeatedly incorrectly refers to the Communist Party of China (CPC) as the “Chinese Communist Party (CCP).” Whatever, what sources are used? U.S. government officials and the line of the U.S. government; “satellite images” which tell you absolutely nothing about what is going on inside these buildings, and certainly don’t prove the claim of genocide; a report by ASPI, a propaganda arm of the western military industrial complex, which has already been disproven; the OHCHR report, which has been critiqued on several grounds [1] [2]; a Washington Post article which cites Radio Free Asia, a CIA propaganda arm funded by U.S. Congress; a BBC report relying on unsworn testimony (which contradicts earlier testimony by the same person) and verification by Adrian Zenz (discussed in the carrd I made and linked); a New York Times report (using fraudulent documents) that purposely misrepresented a speech by Xi Jinping is cited for a continuation of this misrepresentation; the ASPI “Uyghurs for Sale” report, which has already been refuted; another ASPI report which uses satellite imagery to prove the demolition of mosques, you can understand by skepticism with ASPI and this method; Adrian Zenz’s report on “forced sterilization” which misrepresents the issue [1] [2]; the bs Xinjiang Police Files.
There is no mention of U.S. support for terrorism in Xinjiang (see the carrd) when terrorism is discussed (and evidence for the ETIM not being active for a decade is the U.S. government saying it’s not active for a decade, because these sycophantic parrots think this is all that is necessary). Honestly fair try attempting to skip the reading, but unfortunately it didn’t work.
What moral justification does Russia have for invading Ukraine?
The primary reason for the invasion was NATO encroachmemt and threats of Ukraine joining NATO. This prompted an invasion because the Russian Federadtion has border disputes with Ukraine, which it would have no recourse to address if Ukraine joined NATO as then conflict would or at least very seriously could lead to nuclear conflict. Essentially, they’re settling long standing border disputes that have been ongoing, and which the US/NATO have been heavily involved in creating conflict.
The US has been setting up Ukraine a proxy battlefield in its larger conflict against the Russian Federation. The US does not have access to extract value from Russuan territory like it did before Putin and a coalition of national bourgeois allies kicked out the US collaborating bourgois of the Yelstin coalition. This is the source of conflict between the US and the Russian Federation. The US as the global imperial hegemon presides over a system of extraction and exploitation of the imperial periphery. US state enemies are all nations that have refused to submit to this system.
I’m not claiming any moral justification, I’m not claiming support of the action. But that’s the rationale that led the Russian Federation to invade.
I am a communist. I do not support the capitalist and socially reactionary government of the Russian Federation. But i do have a degree of critical support for the Russian Federations struggle against US hegemony. This statement applies to other nations that have non socislist governments but struggle against US hegemony and therefore often trade or support socialist states, such as Iran.
I don’t support the governments of the US any NATO country, Ukraine, or the Russian Federation. I support the international working class of all these countries which did not start nor deserve this war, or any other perpetrated by the ruling classes. I want this war to end, and people to stop dying.
The main reason that this war continues is the insistence of the US whose “aid” is prolonging the war and killing more Ukrainians who do not need to be dying. The US has been playing out its battle with Russia, and has been discplining its NATO “allies” who were becoming energy independent from the US by trading with Russia.
I oppose the US and its aims primarily because it is the global imperialist hegemon. As a communist i oppose this global system of capital and any defeats to this system are of benefit to humanity
Is communism morally good?
Yes. Now here’s a complete post debunking “China’s genocide”: https://xinjiangahr.carrd.co/
https://www.cfr.org/backgrounder/china-xinjiang-uyghurs-muslims-repression-genocide-human-rights
I don’t see how that connects? I’m just confused.
The CFR is a not a nuetral source. Its a mouth piece for natsec ghouls
ctrl-f “Zenz”
Would you look at that
A response to my multitude of points that I collected for a week in this source is… an article from a single Washington think tank with deep ties to the U.S. state department (almost all members have held positions in the U.S. government).
The article repeatedly incorrectly refers to the Communist Party of China (CPC) as the “Chinese Communist Party (CCP).” Whatever, what sources are used? U.S. government officials and the line of the U.S. government; “satellite images” which tell you absolutely nothing about what is going on inside these buildings, and certainly don’t prove the claim of genocide; a report by ASPI, a propaganda arm of the western military industrial complex, which has already been disproven; the OHCHR report, which has been critiqued on several grounds [1] [2]; a Washington Post article which cites Radio Free Asia, a CIA propaganda arm funded by U.S. Congress; a BBC report relying on unsworn testimony (which contradicts earlier testimony by the same person) and verification by Adrian Zenz (discussed in the carrd I made and linked); a New York Times report (using fraudulent documents) that purposely misrepresented a speech by Xi Jinping is cited for a continuation of this misrepresentation; the ASPI “Uyghurs for Sale” report, which has already been refuted; another ASPI report which uses satellite imagery to prove the demolition of mosques, you can understand by skepticism with ASPI and this method; Adrian Zenz’s report on “forced sterilization” which misrepresents the issue [1] [2]; the bs Xinjiang Police Files.
There is no mention of U.S. support for terrorism in Xinjiang (see the carrd) when terrorism is discussed (and evidence for the ETIM not being active for a decade is the U.S. government saying it’s not active for a decade, because these sycophantic parrots think this is all that is necessary). Honestly fair try attempting to skip the reading, but unfortunately it didn’t work.
All the Xinjiang police files links, here and in the caard appear to be dead on my end. I’ve tried both firefox and chrome.
https://archive.is/jeCII < This one takes me to a bot check page that just refreshes every time I do the captcha.
Yeah Mango Press is gone, wasn’t when I made the carrd. For me the link works, but archive.is/.ph does sometimes redirect to captchas that go nowhere. Here’s the archive.org link: https://web.archive.org/web/20230605230819/https://www.mango-press.com/the-xinjiang-police-files-are-actually-boring-zenzs-reality-warping/