• Marcbmann@lemmy.world
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      8 months ago

      Okay. The vast majority of men will not attack you for rejecting their advances. The news loves to cherry pick things that scare people and make them angry, because it increases viewership.

      What’s the alternative? Men should never speak to women?

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        8 months ago

        Oh shit mate, thanks for telling me that! Phew! I mean, I don’t watch the news, but my experience as a woman and all women I know is at least one extremely negative interaction with a man. Where we were legitimately in danger. But now I know it was all in my head, thanks!

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      8 months ago

      I mean, yeah. Are you implying it is all men? Because that’s a super fucked up and sexist thing to believe.

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        The thesis of this comic is “women have reasons to be afraid of some men”. Responding to that with “not all men are bad” is a straw man, it’s responding to an argument that nobody actually made.

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        Are you being deliberately obtuse? The ‘not all men’ cry is the same as ‘all lives matter’. It’s deliberately ignoring the circumstances behind the phrase. Don’t be so silly.

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      It could be the clickbait title yes! But I feel there’s more to it than that. It’s also about who is more visible and who gets talked about the most as well as dis-respectfulness being a personality trade instead of a gender characteristic

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        Go talk to a woman, any woman. And believe what they tell you. Don’t explain to them that they’re just manipulated by the media. Listen to their actual personal experience. Then ask another woman. See if you find a pattern. It won’t be their tv viewing, I promise you that.

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            … I’m a woman. I’ve been raped, assaulted, groped, stalked, kerb-crawled, cat-called and intimidated. The majority of my female friends can tick off at least one of the above. As can their friends. And their mothers. And their sisters.

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              I am sure and I am trully sorry that you’ve been through it all! I’d be scared if I were you too. It doesn’t make it normal though.

              If so many of your remediate network have been through the same, you must be living in a terrible place. The majority of females that I have discussed similar issues with have been based in either northern European countries or Mediterranean. What you describe would be extremes to mostly all the women that i have talked with

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                You’re missing the point that it isn’t living in a terrible place. It’s living in any place. It’s the normal, baseline experience of most women. The Mediterranean is one of the worst.

                Women don’t talk to you about it because it’s normal to them.

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                We’re not females, mate, we’re women. And it’s not isolated to any country or socio-economic group.

                These aren’t extremes. They’re the lived existence of most women. Like I said, that’s a list that most women can identify an instance of that they’ve experienced.

                Your word choice and tone make me think that you aren’t a person any woman readily or candidly confides in.

                Rape, assault, groping, what have you - that happens everywhere. It’s not just a bleak story of post-USSR landscapes and people being carted into trucks; it’s ordinary people. Pele with families, with white collar jobs. Suburbs and night clubs. Country roads and city alleys.

                I’m not a broken shell of a person. I’m a woman in my late 30s who has experienced trauma at the hands of men I trusted, and from complete strangers. I’m a high income earner, I’m privileged. But every woman I know has experienced something on that list.

                Listen to women. Wherever they are, whatever they look like. Stop telling us. We don’t need to be told anything.

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                  I apologise for using the word female instead of woman. In my language they are the same word.

                  In regards to the rest I believe that we will never agree so ill just leave it at that.

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                    You’ll never agree that women have an experience you’ve not experienced?

                    It’s not a matter of opinion