“If Israel agrees to Hamas demands, which include the return of displaced Palestinians to northern Gaza and increasing humanitarian aid, that would pave the way for a (truce) agreement within the next 24 to 48 hours,” said the official, speaking on condition of anonymity to discuss the sensitive issue, as negotiations were set to resume in Cairo.

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    Both sides have said the same thing and offered peace deals that the other side is unwilling to accept, doesn’t really matter if neither side wants to negotiate. Sucks that the civilians just have to suffer while two assholes fight it out.

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      There’s only one side Genociding civilians right now and that’s israel. There is no “both sides”.

      Israel is a Nazi state.

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        Hamas is terrible, Palestine is not. Hamas and Israel are in a symbiotic relationship to keep each other in power ruining the lives of all Palestinians. Hamas is in control because of work Israel did against the Palestinian Authority. That’s an important distinction you need to make. While also stating that Israel is an apartheid state committing genocide.

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          The Palestinian authority is Israel’s contractor, disarming, repressing, and torturing Palestinians on its behalf. Hamas is the armed resistance group fighting Israeli occupation. Hamas is negotiating for Palestinian civilians’ safety. Their terms are necessary to protect Palestinian civilians. When Palestinian resistance organizations capitulated to Israeli demands and disarmed in Lebanon, Israel promptly massacred the civilians they were protecting like in Sabra and shatila. Finally, go fuck yourself.

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        Well… I guess those Israelis that were butchered at that concert don’t count, then?

        Hamas is a terrorist organisation that has killed and kidnapped civilians. Israel killing more civilians doesn’t make Hamas any less of a despicable bunch of fucks.

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          Here is a question I’d like to ask. When america still had slaves some slaves broke free and ended up killing some white people. What I find interesting is people don’t write them right away and bring into context what they had gone through. Extreme conditions produce extreme actions. And those extreme conditions were made by israel.

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          We are well past that. Israel has far eclipsed Hamas’ crime. There’s only one population being killed and starved right now.

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          These ones?

          Even including all the IDF kills Hamas has a 2:1 civilian casualty rate. The word Genocide is impossible to use there.

          And who is currently killing civilians right now. Is the date 7 october 2023?

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            Are you really arguing that Hamas are the good guys because of their lower “civilian casualty rate”? Like, “yeah, they killed a lot of civilians, but the others killed more, so they’re the good guys, touché”? Are you insane?

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              You’re presenting a false dichotomy.

              What Hamas did was a terrible, unforgivable act of terrorism. They should be punished for this - it doesn’t matter whether the victims were civilian or not.

              But Hamas isn’t murdering thousands of Israeli civilians right now - only Israel is murdering thousands of Palestinian civilians. Only one of these parties is currently engaged in genocide.

              This is just an explanation of what the other user was expressing. You are projecting terrible opinions onto them that they haven’t even come close to expressing.

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              Hamas are in fact the completely righteous side in this conflict. Hamas is the resistance organization fighting a fascist, colonial, genocidal regime built on oppression, death, and ethnic cleansing. Hamas is infinitely more morally upstanding than you or I or any person not risking their lives to bring an end to Israel.

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                Prior to 10/7, I’d agree. The voters in Gaza elected them to run the Palestinian government for a reason.

                After 10/7? You have to admit they fucked up, in a pretty colossal way. So huge that the only thing I can think of is that they wanted to provoke this insane reaction from Israel.

                Israel had been destroying lives in Gaza and the West Bank for DECADES now and the world at large hadn’t really been paying attention. Oh, we are now!

                So, yeah, Hamas ended up getting the reaction they wanted… at the cost of thousands of innocent Palestinian lives.

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                  10/7 is the manifestation of anti colonial resistance. It is the blueprint. There was no “fuck up”. There was a groundbreaking military success that embarrassed the Israeli military and state. Now Israel is carrying out this genocide in order to reaffirm its violent dominance to itself and to Palestinians. The fact that resistance begets more colonial violence is not a fault of resistance. It is what makes resistance imperative so this structure is permanently dismantled. The Palestinians of Gaza understand this. The failure after 10/7 was on the world’s part, because it allowed this genocide to happen.

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                    They went after innocent Israeli civilians and was just as much a war crime as what Israel is doing in Gaza right now.