Nono I get you, I’m well aware of what petty bourgeoisie is. I was hoping I could skirt around that by prefacing mom and pop with “vibes of”. I only miss the atmosphere, not the structure. Under communism this would probably take the form of publicly owned and maintained ski lift and resting lodge populated and primarily utilized by the workers that live near it.

In all honesty it would likely develop and entirely different culture in this world since anti-capitalism would no longer be counter culture. The nostalgia I feel for the 90s and early 2000s snowboarder aesthetic will probably never be truly satisfied but a man can dream.

I strongly disagree with your belief that sports and travel wouldn’t exist under communism. I don’t think people can be truly satisfied just because their material conditions are met. There is so much more to life than basic biological needs and social needs. People have desires (not needs) beyond that. No amount of connection to my work, leisure time for hobbies, or interpersonal connection will ever lessen my desire to see the beauty that nature can offer. I currently live in an incredibly flat and barren place, it is genuinely the one of the ugliest places I think I could find to live in. But honestly, even if it wasn’t, even if I lived in the snowy mountains and mossy evergreen forests of Washington, I think I’d still want to experience somewhere else if I could. Basically what I’m getting at in regards to vacation is, generally, humans like seeing and experiencing new things; being stuck in the same place their whole lives can drain them. Humans have a basic need for beauty, we genuinely become depressed when our surroundings are too unappealing.

As for sports I think don’t think they’d be nearly as big of a deal but they would absolutely still exist. Sports have been proven to exist for many thousands of years pre capitalism and pre feudalism. It’s a form of basic play that can bring a community together in the case of team sports. Extreme sports like snowboarding however, are primarily individualistic activities and would probably see a decline but I don’t think they’d disappear entirely. When you were a kid did you ever pick up a skateboard and try to learn tricks? Would you say that you did that because you were alienated from work and because your material conditions were unmet? I think it’s more that people enjoy learning new skills and like the adrenaline. So sure, snowboarding might not be nearly as big as it is now but I refuse to believe it would die out entirely especially since it has already been established and the infrastructure for it already exists.

What are your thoughts @johnmccainstumor@hexbear.net