• The_Grinch [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    28 days ago

    I have seen this take several times but I’ve never gotten any additional information about how they came to that conclusion. Has anyone gotten an actual answer?

    • BeanisBrain [he/him, they/them]@hexbear.net
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      28 days ago

      Presumably it’s some sort of racial essentialism in the vein of “Marx was a white European, white Europeans are colonizers, therefore Marx was a colonizer”

      Whether this person actually buys into racial essentialism or is just rage-baiting to own the libs is harder to guess.

    • GrouchyGrouse [he/him]@hexbear.net
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      28 days ago

      I’ve never seen a person I’d take seriously say a thing like this. Imagine the look on Nelson Mandela’s face if you told him Marx was a colonizer.

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      28 days ago

      dude never even left europe. like he did say racist shit but what exactly is a colonizer vs saying racist shit? or is this like, nazis saying marx was jewish and jews colonized europe? or maybe its a take against the idea that colonization was historically progressive as europeans introduced capitalism which is considered more progressive than feudalism?

      • PKMKII [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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        28 days ago

        Honestly I think it’s a six degrees of separation thing where the USSR annexing the Baltics and China annexing Tibet is “colonizing” and they were influenced by Marx so ergo Marx is a colonizer.

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      27 days ago

      I think he found inspiration in some Iroquois political economy stuff is the underlying argument

      To take that to ‘colonizer’ can only be done in a land as illiterate as this one

      • SpookyBogMonster@lemmy.ml
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        It’s that through Morgan’s work on ancient familial structures that Engles discusses in Origin of The Family, Private Property, and The State?

        My understanding is that, while a lot of the nitty gritty details have since been shown to be wrong, that the general outline still more or less holds