• A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world
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    if they are so concerned about children, how about doing something about the mormon church and the fucking horrible crimes that are committed against women and children in it?

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    The Mormon Government of Putin representatives working for your freedom. The UTah Oblast is becoming a miniature version of CCP run China.

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    11 hours ago

    More ways to control our lives and track our movements.

    “Party of small government”.

    Personally, I would stop using any site that did this. We all know nothing matters in this country but money. Companies stop making as much, they’ll get legislation changed.

  • flop_leash_973@lemmy.world
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    11 hours ago

    Every website would be better served to come up with a way to block all IP ranges that come out of Utah ISPs. Better to just block the whole state than try to play this game.

  • NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip
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    13 hours ago

    Have they thought about passing a law that checks to see if the people making the law have an IQ above 50?

    This is the dumbest, most waste of time bullshit particularly when the rest of the country is imploding. Maybe they should focus on things that matter.

  • Katana314@lemmy.world
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    11 hours ago

    Wait, how long until literally any software business realizes what this is, and hard lobbies against it?

    You basically must conduct all your business unencrypted in the state of Utah if this is to be understood.

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    13 hours ago

    The acceleration of the popularization of darknets continues, it’s going to be a tough decade, but at the end of it, we’ll all be more private and secure. Learn about Tor, I2P, and anonymous internet alternatives!

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      Oh, I need to break character here to do a public service announcement.

      Do you want to learn how to build onionized explosives? You shouldn’t read the Anarchist’s Cookbook then, or any other instruction sources, as those are compromised to expodes you. Same reason as why some alcohol would kill you during prohibition: your government loves you!

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    18 hours ago

    If I were a lawyer arguing against the law in court, my primary argument would be that this violates the interstate commerce section of the US Constitution.

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      13 hours ago

      wait, i’m confused, do we have to pay them the three bucks and give them the burrito to get them to take it?

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    15 hours ago

    So how do they plan on figuring out if any given user behind a VPN is in Utah?

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      17 hours ago

      Age and identity verification. Unfortunately selling user data is profitable, so I think this will become more common.

    • Johanno@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      Well while your isp can’t see what you do when you use a vpn. They can see you use a vpn.

      So there is that. However you could use an isp that is not in utah

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          There are known IP ranges for some VPN services. Plus even if they don’t have that, they can see that all your traffic is going to one IP address and can guess/assume it’s a VPN.

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            they can see that all your traffic is going to one IP address and can guess/assume it’s a VPN

            Umm… What?

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              Like with phone carriers, ISPs can see the numbers (IPs) you are connecting to. If you use a VPN, you’re always connecting to the same IP, which is unusual from a regular user perspective and would tend to indicate VPN usage.

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                If you use a VPN, you’re always connecting to the same IP

                No, you’re not. A VPN provider can have hundreds of thousands of IP:s.

                which is unusual

                OK, but not unheard of. And even a dynamic IP might remain the same for months, if not years, depending on the operator.

                would tend to indicate VPN usage

                No, it wouldn’t.

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        That works from the ISP end, but this legislation makes websites themselves accountable. Even if it was about ISPs, as you said they can’t see what you’re doing to stop it and there’s too many use cases for VPNs to just block the protocols outright.

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    The stupidity of these lawmakers is beyond wild. How the fuck is this real?

    I have a similar idea, let’s prosecute the police when they fail to catch criminals and punish them instead. A killer got away? Death penalty for the police officer in charge. That will make the killers think twice!

    Or even better, let’s prosecute politicians when their laws backfire and do more damage than good.

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        It’s not just that, it’s that they don’t care. People keep assuming it’s solely based on a lack of knowledge but the real point is establishing consequences to prevent the things that can’t fight it from existing to begin.

        They’ll decline to go after the websites they as lawmakers use themselves, but will instead hit up independent things that can’t afford to fight back and will just close when contacted.

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      15 hours ago

      I think politicians have special law right to avoid that consequences of their actions.

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        Citizens also have special action that leds them bypass laws.

        It’s called anarchy to some, and full-on revolution to others.