They’re investing heavily in podcasts because podcasts are far, far more profitable than music. If they can get people used to (and hooked) on listening to podcasts (any podcasts) through Spotify then all that money spent on popular podcasters will be worth it (in the end).
I’m sure Spotify would love it if they could stop streaming music entirely and just focus on podcasts. Streaming music costs them a ton of money and overhead (bureaucracy associated with keeping track of and paying artists globally with bazillions of laws and regulations and fees to navigate) whereas podcasts just cost bandwidth.
And I’m very much not a fan of fucking up podcasts as a simple medium delivered by RSS. I have a futile hope that that decision will burn them.
This was the straw that broke the camel’s back for me. When they started locking up shows to their app, I cancelled my subscription and dropped Spotify entirely. I don’t even listen to any of the shows they bought but I do listen to a lot of podcasts through Pocket Casts and take umbrage when anybody fucks with the standards.
Big tech used to be built on the idea that you could work on a moonshot idea, have it fail, and then be reassigned to something new, or swallowed into new orgs. This way, you could work on the next Zune, Fire Phone, or Circles, and not fear for your job - like you would if you worked for a startup.
Now, they don’t give a fuck. If the moonshot fails, they move the exec to a new org, and fire the entire team. It means that companies like Spotify can diversify their offering while saving money, and due to the poor hiring market and general apathy of tech workers, they just deal with it.
The opposite. He never had anything to say, he was just a great interviewer.
The problem is he started believing he had something to say, and started talking over guests he disagrees with… The last one I watched the guest spoke for less than 2 minutes before Joe went on a 5+ minute rant about how he didn’t believe it. I can’t even remember what it was about, because the guy didn’t even get to lay out his argument
We got it Joe, you think the world is a magical place and have strong opinions on how humans should interact. Let the science man talk
He has done a lot to help spread things like anti-vaxxer lies. He’s given platform to shitty right wingers and treated their ideas as reasonable alternatives to more mainstream views. He generally has presented his views as moderate and he’s “just asking questions” which seems disingenuous.
He generally comes off as an idiot who likes money, but being responsible about what he allows on his show is not a big concern as long as the dollars keep flowing
They could easily pay those workers by terminating the contract with Rogan
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if it’s not available via RSS then it’s not a podcast, it’s an audio show.
They’re investing heavily in podcasts because podcasts are far, far more profitable than music. If they can get people used to (and hooked) on listening to podcasts (any podcasts) through Spotify then all that money spent on popular podcasters will be worth it (in the end).
I’m sure Spotify would love it if they could stop streaming music entirely and just focus on podcasts. Streaming music costs them a ton of money and overhead (bureaucracy associated with keeping track of and paying artists globally with bazillions of laws and regulations and fees to navigate) whereas podcasts just cost bandwidth.
I hate that you’re right. I listen to 0 podcast, it’s just not my format, yet they constantly push it in my face
This was the straw that broke the camel’s back for me. When they started locking up shows to their app, I cancelled my subscription and dropped Spotify entirely. I don’t even listen to any of the shows they bought but I do listen to a lot of podcasts through Pocket Casts and take umbrage when anybody fucks with the standards.
Big tech used to be built on the idea that you could work on a moonshot idea, have it fail, and then be reassigned to something new, or swallowed into new orgs. This way, you could work on the next Zune, Fire Phone, or Circles, and not fear for your job - like you would if you worked for a startup.
Now, they don’t give a fuck. If the moonshot fails, they move the exec to a new org, and fire the entire team. It means that companies like Spotify can diversify their offering while saving money, and due to the poor hiring market and general apathy of tech workers, they just deal with it.
I think Joe was out of things to say 10 years ago. You could replace him with AI and never know the difference.
I don’t think AI speaks “knuckledragger” well enough
You’re overestimating the intelligence and ability of his listeners if you think they’d notice the difference.
I mean if just once it sounded not stupid they’d be calling JR a “fag” or something, I think.
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I don’t hate the man like a lot of people here but this a really good point.
The opposite. He never had anything to say, he was just a great interviewer.
The problem is he started believing he had something to say, and started talking over guests he disagrees with… The last one I watched the guest spoke for less than 2 minutes before Joe went on a 5+ minute rant about how he didn’t believe it. I can’t even remember what it was about, because the guy didn’t even get to lay out his argument
We got it Joe, you think the world is a magical place and have strong opinions on how humans should interact. Let the science man talk
Uh… Ok… Wow. So you understand how businesses work?
You can be pissed off but he is still the number 1 listed/watched podcast in the world. It brings in subscribers.
Fuck Joe Rogan
As someone who’s been out of the loop. Why do so many people hate Joe Rogan?
He has done a lot to help spread things like anti-vaxxer lies. He’s given platform to shitty right wingers and treated their ideas as reasonable alternatives to more mainstream views. He generally has presented his views as moderate and he’s “just asking questions” which seems disingenuous.
He generally comes off as an idiot who likes money, but being responsible about what he allows on his show is not a big concern as long as the dollars keep flowing
I agree. Doesn’t charge reality. Man it’s hard for people to accept Rogan prints money and the comment made no sense.
What comment?
No. Rogan brings in subs. He sells ads. He is the most popular podcast on the planet. He makes them money, Spotify isn’t a Joe Rogan charity.
millions of flies cannot be wrong!
Money from flies spends just as well as money from butterflies.
The hate I’m getting for pointing out objective reality is pretty terrible. There is a whole lot of copium around his popularity.
Doesn’t matter if you like their taste or not. It makes money.