• BanMeFromPosting [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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    2 months ago

    You are aware you are also an individual and part of public discourse, right? Why are you being this obtuse, pretending like he isn’t receiving any backlash. If there were no backlash none of us would be arguing right now. And you know this. Why do you insist on making this discussion so much more difficult than it already is?

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      Because there’s a racial dimension to the discourse which I’m acknowledging exists, if you want to debate in a hypothetical vacuum where the race element is absent, then find someone else

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        2 months ago

        Noone is arguing there isn’t a racial dimension to this. You are however arguing he isn’t facing backlash, when he is. Talk about arguing in a vacuum lol. You keep picking and choosing what it is you want to engage with.

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          Here’s a basic question so we can cut through the bullshit and obtuseness; Does backlash from Black people carry the same weight as backlash from White people?

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            Like as in “do I think it should” or “how does the world treat people”?
            I think the world weighs backlash from white people much higher than any other group. I don’t think it should.
            But I also don’t think backlash in and of itself should be valued any which way in a vacuum.

            Backlash in and of itself says nothing about the situation. A bunch of people got mad at the Dixie Chicks for opposing war in Iraq in the 00’s. I don’t think that backlash should carry any weight. I would imagine most backlash from white people fits within that spectrum. The chris-rocked affair seemed like a bunch of white people freaking out and that wasn’t fitting either.

            I’m not ingrained in black culture, so I don’t know what there have been backlashes about otherwise, but I’m sure there’s situations there where I would feel the same. On the other hand the whole “oscars so white” was a time I thought backlash was good.

            In this situation? I don’t think backlash against a man with tourettes is valid. I think backlash against the broadcaster for not censoring it or doing anything about it is, because saying a bunch of slurs on public television is harmful.

            In general? I think backlash from any marginalised group should carry a lot more weight than it does. Certainly more than backlash from white people. I do however find it despicable how you try to make this into a “black vs. white” thing, when it is about ableism as much as it is about racism. That is part of what I mean when I talk about you picking and choosing what you want to argue. That is you trying to create a vacuum where the argument solely fits you.