Because there’s a racial dimension to the discourse which I’m acknowledging exists, if you want to debate in a hypothetical vacuum where the race element is absent, then find someone else
Noone is arguing there isn’t a racial dimension to this. You are however arguing he isn’t facing backlash, when he is. Talk about arguing in a vacuum lol. You keep picking and choosing what it is you want to engage with.
Here’s a basic question so we can cut through the bullshit and obtuseness; Does backlash from Black people carry the same weight as backlash from White people?
Like as in “do I think it should” or “how does the world treat people”?
I think the world weighs backlash from white people much higher than any other group. I don’t think it should.
But I also don’t think backlash in and of itself should be valued any which way in a vacuum.
Backlash in and of itself says nothing about the situation. A bunch of people got mad at the Dixie Chicks for opposing war in Iraq in the 00’s. I don’t think that backlash should carry any weight. I would imagine most backlash from white people fits within that spectrum. The affair seemed like a bunch of white people freaking out and that wasn’t fitting either.
I’m not ingrained in black culture, so I don’t know what there have been backlashes about otherwise, but I’m sure there’s situations there where I would feel the same. On the other hand the whole “oscars so white” was a time I thought backlash was good.
In this situation? I don’t think backlash against a man with tourettes is valid. I think backlash against the broadcaster for not censoring it or doing anything about it is, because saying a bunch of slurs on public television is harmful.
In general? I think backlash from any marginalised group should carry a lot more weight than it does. Certainly more than backlash from white people. I do however find it despicable how you try to make this into a “black vs. white” thing, when it is about ableism as much as it is about racism. That is part of what I mean when I talk about you picking and choosing what you want to argue. That is you trying to create a vacuum where the argument solely fits you.
Because there’s a racial dimension to the discourse which I’m acknowledging exists, if you want to debate in a hypothetical vacuum where the race element is absent, then find someone else
Noone is arguing there isn’t a racial dimension to this. You are however arguing he isn’t facing backlash, when he is. Talk about arguing in a vacuum lol. You keep picking and choosing what it is you want to engage with.
Here’s a basic question so we can cut through the bullshit and obtuseness; Does backlash from Black people carry the same weight as backlash from White people?
Like as in “do I think it should” or “how does the world treat people”?
I think the world weighs backlash from white people much higher than any other group. I don’t think it should.
But I also don’t think backlash in and of itself should be valued any which way in a vacuum.
Backlash in and of itself says nothing about the situation. A bunch of people got mad at the Dixie Chicks for opposing war in Iraq in the 00’s. I don’t think that backlash should carry any weight. I would imagine most backlash from white people fits within that spectrum. The
affair seemed like a bunch of white people freaking out and that wasn’t fitting either.
I’m not ingrained in black culture, so I don’t know what there have been backlashes about otherwise, but I’m sure there’s situations there where I would feel the same. On the other hand the whole “oscars so white” was a time I thought backlash was good.
In this situation? I don’t think backlash against a man with tourettes is valid. I think backlash against the broadcaster for not censoring it or doing anything about it is, because saying a bunch of slurs on public television is harmful.
In general? I think backlash from any marginalised group should carry a lot more weight than it does. Certainly more than backlash from white people. I do however find it despicable how you try to make this into a “black vs. white” thing, when it is about ableism as much as it is about racism. That is part of what I mean when I talk about you picking and choosing what you want to argue. That is you trying to create a vacuum where the argument solely fits you.