I’ve been trying to find a good Marxist instance, but Lemmygrad and Hexbear are widely hated. Why is that? Are there any good leftist instances?

  • Echo Dot@feddit.uk
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    1 year ago

    Just take a look at this question, all of the answers are from lemmygrad and hexbear users. You are not going to get a good answer from them because they’re the people you’re asking the question about.

    They are not hated they’re just annoying, no one really cares about their opinions the problem is is that they try and push their opinions on everybody else.

    • CanadaPlus@futurology.todayEnglish
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      1 year ago

      Yeah, they have a very alternative interpretation of geopolitics and they’re loud about it. If there was a flat earth instance with users that spammed every physics thread there would be some grumbling just the same.

      • FaeDrifter@midwest.socialEnglish
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        1 year ago

        Hexbear also weaponizes accusations of transphobia the same way Israel weaponizes accusations of anti-semitism.

        Now Hexbear hasn’t done any genocide yet, but it does loove to talk about executing people, many and frequently.

        • CanadaPlus@futurology.todayEnglish
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          1 year ago

          Cool story. You’re right, it’s not an exact science, so why are you so sure about your perspective on it either? I think the answer is “identity”.

          As for my reading list, I’ve probably gotten further into Das Capital than you have, and it belongs on the side of electrification that it was written on.

    • HikingVet@lemmy.ca
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      1 year ago

      Well, when I see a .ml user from here on out I’m not sure I’ll be able to give them the same sort of leeway.

      I had one of their users confirm they were racist. Then I saw that only the parts where our conversation was removed by mods, and not shit canning the user.

      You want people to like you, don’t lie down with racists.

      • LinkOpensChest.wav@lemmy.one
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        1 year ago

        I concur about .ml. It’s been eye opening being on the receiving end of a homophobic rant by a moderator of their world news community implying I’m not queer enough. It wouldn’t surprise me that they’re racist, too. Bigots tend to subscribe to more than one strain of bigotry.

        I know it shouldn’t matter what people like that think, but I’d be lying if I said I’m not disappointed and dismayed. I’ve survived so many things and had a long hard road to self-acceptance. It’s disgusting to be invalidated by someone who likely has more than I’ve ever had.

        • OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml
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          1 year ago

          Middle class white gay men could use their privilege to help out the rest of the lgbtq community instead of being right wingers, but then that would require examining their privileges, and we can’t have that.

          So pointing out those privileges and how different rights affect different subsections of the community differently because of those privileges is homophobic./s

          Fuck off.

          • Amerikan Pharaoh@lemmygrad.ml
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            1 year ago

            This is exactly why the only gays I have the time and energy for have to have some melanin in them. Black, Latino, indigenous, it don’t matter to me from there but you can’t be a hwhite gay and expect to just chill with me anymore; not without HARDCORE vetting. I’m talking “six months to two years worth of figuring out if you’re some kind of narc, some kind of #alllivesmatter queer(they exist), or some other kind of malevolent settler-queer” hardcore vetting.

            I don’t spend an IOTA of my energy on these three-no’s-on-they-grindr-profile-assed settlers anymore; not with all the crybullying about “reverse racism” and all these other fuckboy games they’d rather play than actually do any kind of meaningful work on themselves or the way they navigate the world.

            Required reading: x

            As several scholars have noted, contemporary gay life is marked by high levels of racism directed towards gay men of color by gay white men, with much of the racism manifesting itself as negative sexual attitudes towards, and sexual exclusion or fetishization of, non-white men (Armstrong 2002; Bérubé 2001; Epstein 1996; McBride 2005; Tenunis, 2007). After examining online personal ads and interviewing gay men, Robinson (2015) found that gay white men often exclude gay men of color as potential sexual partners while denying that their racial preferences are racist in nature.

            …

            Despite gay white men’s insistence that sexual exclusion was not racism but rather personal preference, and that these personal preferences have nothing to do with racism, Collander and his colleagues (2015) found that attitudes toward sexual exclusion were related to almost every identified factor associated with racist attitudes in general.

            • OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml
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              1 year ago

              I’m white and Asian but look fairly white and you wouldn’t believe(well, you probably would) the fucking shit I hear from white lesbians and trans people too. They’re much better than gay men overall but holyyy shit.