but with your phone

I’ve never in my life met a chud who willingly lived in this small of a house. assuming there’s nothing above the garage its a total footprint of 20x30 feet, significantly less than 600sqft interior. This is the kind of house chuds try to split into two dogshit studio apartments and rent out for a profit.

you can’t raise an evangelical-sized family in that size house built to american standards. If its two stories its pretty modest, if its one its tiny tiny.

Not to mention the hilariously small animal pens and crop fields

You can supplement your food intake with a garden but you aren’t going to be self sufficient on 1 acre lmao, and your garden isn’t going to have the same yield as a farm field, and those animals are going to just die or be miserable and you’re going to be utterly dependent on wherever you buy their feed from

I read the first 30 or so pages. It seems promising. It’s setting the stage for sort of an anthropological study of class based on interviews with a large number of working class people, exploring their feelings about upward mobility and exploitation and the sort of sense of inadequacy many feel about being of low status or education or origin in a society dominated by the “well to do” accultured few…

It started off with a brief outline of the evolving lives and views of two former communists, which was interesting, and I’m very curious to see if and how it circles back to them. There’s an examination of whether/why American workers lack revolutionary potential, and seems to show significant criticism of the purely economic explanations that a lot of people on both the left and right hold, the idea that it just boils down to bread and circuses and some small measure of economic stability. It seems like they’re trying to thread the needle and examine social forces that act on working class people , without completely collapsing into individualistic nonsense.

There’s also a CW: SA needed within the first 2 pages of the introduction

Yeah, that’s the thing. This dogshit headline says “more toxic than cigarettes” but that’s simply not what the study looked at, it looked at specifically heavy metal exposures, which are not the primary things that make smoking cigarettes bad for you.

WOAH! could be just a funny coincidence, but I picked up an old book a couple months ago, from a junk store, called verbatim, The Hidden Injuries of Class

Looks like it was released in 1972, which iirc was around the time of Parenti’s leftward turn (his first book, The Anti-Communist Impulse was release in '69).

I picked it up based on the summary and some light skimming, assuming it would be pretty lib but sounded maybe worth a shot, but this gives me a bit more hope for it having some value, if it may have made an impression on Parenti…

it’s on libgen/archive.org it seems

https://libgen.is/book/index.php?md5=A98146A793EC86689DEE33E499378729

https://archive.org/details/hiddeninjuriesof00sennrich/page/n291/mode/2up

I haven’t read it yet but this may inspire me to pick it up

@jumble@hexbear.net whats up

ew. I mean some good discussion going on there but more dumb guy shit than I expected

I haven’t been reading much besides the news mega recently, were people really saying that on here, or was that just the general “online leftist/marxist” milleu?

When it’s spread out over 150 sq. miles I’m not so sure lmao (and that’s just the city limits, the metro area is almost 4500 square miles!!)

I mean it is a city, but its not particularly large, and the way it’s laid out its like 3 suburbs in a trenchcoat

edit: okay honestly not as bad as I thought. It’s almost twice as dense as my rubric for “really more of a town” type places, but half as dense as what I’d consider definitely real cities (still pretty low density by non american standards)

fair lol. gotta know the right people I guess to get advice on that. my thinking was that immigration “crimes” are not really the same as other crimes (in some countries at least). Pursued by different authorities, openly tolerated by most people, etc.

could you not just come in on a tourist visa and then try and live off the grid until shit hits the fan to the point where deporting you back to america becomes a lower priority? idk maybe thats unrealistic in this day and age but how hard could it be to find under-the-table or online work/roommates and get by for a while? Esp if you made some comradely friends online first before coming

Yeah I’m definitely not a liberal

doing your best impression of one then?

But I’m not going to pretend that I’m super stoked about a bunch of people from a country that’s been threatening to invade my country coming here either. Don’t know how Americans don’t understand this about their effects on other countries and how it makes them feel about your country.

This is just nationalism. The tiny little seedling of reactionary cancer in your mind. The logic that leads people to fighting wars they never needed any part of to preserve or glorify a state that doesn’t give a fuck about them.

Of course nobody wants to be invaded or annexed by america, but accepting a few refugees ain’t that. And even if I accept your premise of needing to defend kkkanadian culture, American cultural influence doesn’t come from a few too many americans crossing the border, if anything its primarily 1) media like I said is far and away the biggest, and 2) canadians going to the US for work and bringing it home. And probably a few other factors I’m forgetting off the top of my head, but not a few genuinely endangered fuckin refugees

I don’t expect anyone to feel anything positive about america, if anything I wish people hated it more, both in America and around the globe, but recognizing the humanity in those who choose or are forced to leave it, is pretty basic stuff. They’re human beings not a pernicious influence on “muh culture”. Especially not in a country that’s just as much of a dogshit settler state as america is but in a slightly different flavor

PNW is full of fascists

but so’s everywhere I guess, to slightly varying degrees

A vast majority of you guys who think you’re “one of the good ones” are in fact not “one of the good ones.”

Perhaps you, the liberal handwringing about american influence on your culture in response to a trans person not wanting to get genocided in america, is “not one of the good ones”. Jesus how hard is it to think these things through before you say shit? Honestly, a bunch of white liberals, I get having some qualms, though the cultural influence talking point is far more pertinent in reference to media than via any imaginable number of refugees coming up.

Edit: AND ANOTHER THING, ITS NOT A “GUY”

2 mins in GIMP

original photog did all the hard work though tbf

yeah assuming it wasn’t super obviously coordinated, all hailed by one person, etc. this is true (and it’d be bad PR to go after them if it wasn’t an airtight case). fucking hasan hailed an uber or whatever like 2 blocks from the protest to go home, live on stream, the waymos were hailed early enough in the protest to be very plausibly deniable

I heard it’s because they share data with cops, but I don’t know how many people on the ground actually know that.

People said this about the burning and looted Target stores in Minneapolis in 2020. It wasn’t true, a lot of people on the ground absolutely knew about many of their horrible practices, and even those who didn’t know the specifics correctly idenitified big corporations and big tech as being big drivers/boosters of police repression and surveillance.

More generalized looting is also a thing (and I have no interest in condemning it) but there’s a reason Target went first and was targeted across neighborhoods even far from the action.

yeah its great they literally told it to say it was real and it still didn’t

just showing the progression throughout the incident