It seems thet for many here, Iran, Russia, and China are the good guys in anything and everything, and especially in their opposition to the US. So… I’m not quite sure why this doesn’t make the orange dude adored by this crowd.

That people are stupid because they don’t have access to knowledge.

On the other hand, they do have great propaganda, don’t they? ;)

I’m just here to remind everyone that in China people can’t vote, can’t run to office, and their basic rights are not protected from the government.

Natural selection “asks” this question all the time. What you see around you are the different answers ;)

Why is this list not sorted? Am I the only one confused by this?

There are more Palestinians in Israel than in the west bank. They can all vote and they have parties in the Israeli parliament.

Also, Gaza hasn’t been part of Israel for almost 20 years.

Israel is actually the only country in the middle east where Palestinians can vote and get elected.

It’s called symbiosis. They both profit from it.

How do I know? Because it evolved. Why did it evolve? Because it gives them an advantage.

I think it is quite obvious: to destroy the Hamas infrastructure and to kill as many Hamas militants as possible, while minimising Israeli casualties.

If you have a better suggestion for how to destroy Hamas’ ability to continue to attack Israel I’m sure they would love to hear it.

That is the same guilty rate as Israel’s internal convictions and is caused by police not bothering with anything that is not an easy win.

The administrative detention also has judicial checks and limitations. Also, these are not random people picked off the streets, these are terrorists or would be terrorists where, for the most part, the evidence for detaining them is too sensitive from intelligence point of view to share in a trial.

Hamas surrender would PREVENT Israel from occupying Gaza. If Hamas wouldn’t have taken the hostages in the first place Israel wouldn’t have attacked Gaza.

Is the current Hamas strategy working for the Gazans civilians?

So yes, if you want to support Gazans civilians, and prevent Israel from occupying Gaza, you should push Hamas to surrender and return the hostages.

Detaining 15 year old children that stab civilians is also a valid way of describing the reality. Also, according to UN and Al Jazeera, a 17 year old self proclaimed Hamas fighter that tries to kill Israeli civilians with a AK is a child. Somehow you take it to mean that he is innocent.

Yes, of course, first the hellfire missile rounds up the children, then it ties them up with wires and burns them. Of course that is what explains the results. It also undressed women and tied them before burning them alive. Common effect of hellfire missiles. happens all the time with that sort of ammunition.

You’re right, there are only security cameras of a few of these children running around stabbing civilians. I guess Al Jazeera forgot to mention that to you.

So the pictures of burnt babies, beheadings of hostages, and undressed dead girls do not convince you that Hamas actually committed atrocities?

The Palestinian prisoners are not hostages. Comparing random civilians, elderly, and babies to convicted terrorists is Hamas level propaganda.

Israel is committed to destroying the army of Hamas, and to prevent it from ruling Gaza. It is not committed to destroying Gaza.

Hamas could end the war any minute. Pressuring Israel to let Hamas survive instead of pressuring Hamas to surrender and return the hostages is being pro-Hamas, not pro Palestinian.

So you’re saying they need them for a ceasefire deal? Then why no negotiations for a ceasefire?

“It’s the imperialist culture that drew the borders”, says person who apparently is completely unaware of the history of the middle east in the past few hundred years, nor in the geo-political forces behind the conflict in the past 75 years.

This seemingly simple comment already tells me you are pro-palestinian. Also, for someone that is interested enough in this matter to take part in this discussion, you show impressive ignorance.

So just to to troll you a bit, let me answer this way: Thinking that this crisis started when seven Arab armies attacked Israel with the proclaimed goal of “sweeping the Jews into the sea and pillaging the millions they invested in the country” is extremely short sighted.