Never said they were???

Aight, disengaging.

I didn’t accuse people of straight up lying.

Dead children sucks. Even if they are the children of fascists supporters.

Hamas disagrees with you.

The group said that avoiding harming civilians “is a religious and moral commitment”

It added that “maybe some faults happened” during the attack.

Thanks for the shitty bad faith accusations. This kind of conversation sucks.

Yep! The observable universe has an edge we’re fairly confident about. Though while it is absolutely “expanding”, unfortunately, space around it is also expanding, so the universe is getting bigger in size, but we don’t think we’re gaining any new mass or exciting celestial objects. Everything’s just getting further away…

Some people in this thread really do need to

Violent opposition to genocide is of course justified, but publicly chanting supporting for an event that is, at the very least, widely public perceived as a massacre of civilians, is pretty shitty protest tactics at best. And discrediting fed-work at worst.

Critical support for Hamas. They should do more violent resistance to the IDF, and sadly civilians will die, but that aspect is an unfortunate necessity, not a thing to be lauded. Hamas themselves say they made mistakes in that attack.

People should not stand with them on every issue and event; overall obviously fighting a genocide makes them worthy of support.

Maybe it’s because all popular media is corporatised grey goo now, whereas in the time of thelonelyisland, there was still minor room for internet creativity to be slightly different than very generic.

The ICC reply (though I like how they do try to reply genuinely and honestly) boils down to “but the palestinian government is/would be capitalist too, so…”

This is the very bad form of class reductionism, the idea that oppression/genocide/etc doesn’t matter and isn’t imperialism because it’s not fundamentally along class lines.

Sure thing, ICC, but I don’t think the people of Palestine are in any position to do any revolutions while under the iron thumb of the US and Israel. Nor do I think many people will view communist organisations positively if they sit by, ambivalent about genocide.

I assumed these were all meant to be like 14 year old kids, but Chunus and Jorch out here with their full beards really ruin that theory

But your honor, did you account for the fact that while I was murdering many innocents I said “Violence should stop!”??? I should be exonerated

We’re stuck in a very shitty choice of two: Someone who is actively doing genocide right now, and someone who will probably actively do genocide. Is the second just very slightly less shitty? I really don’t know, I guess.

Actively furthering genocide

“Grammar”

These things are equal in importance

Libs accept that voting may be vaguely useful, but is less than the bare minimum you should be doing to affect politics, they cannot beat this challenge.

Give them a break, they ‘pre-emptively’ defederated as a ‘last resort’ after asserting that they do in fact believe in . That’s how you know they’re not hypocrites.

True, this is a problem… The fact that bourgeois fucks can raise prices as needless retaliation to laws needs to be remedied…