If this is what they do to their allies, can you imagine what they do to prisoners/enemies?

How many more need to die before the west recognise it’s endorsing, funding and defending a very active genocide? Does anyone out there really believe only 40k have died? Or even 180k? Once the dust has settled it won’t suprise me if over half a million were killed and the west absolutely defending while going in circles airing their unequivocal support for Jews like what the actual fuck. Nobody has any right to dare talk about anti semitism again after this war, because I longer respect anti semitism, they’ve caused enough suffering in Palestine, Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Egypt and so on.

I can absolutely believe in America using groups to try to cause chaos within china, they did literally everywhere else, and now somehow china is the big bad genocidal nation? I hope to see it for myself as my ethnic homeland of Pakistan borders xinyang and I can cross it without a visa i think. Often time the west is projecting the things they very much did and propagandise that’s what china or Russia or whoever is GOING to do. When their best buddies Israel, Saudi Arabia and UAE all cause more problems in the world.

Generally I found more sensible people on Lemmy but I guess not everyone is that logical here 🤷

I agree with you wholeheartedly. Before I fully started using Lemmy maybe a month ago, Instagram and my former safe haven Reddit become absolutely toxic. I go from one to another and it’s always people being blown up and comments saying most racist shit ever. People being racist misogynistic and other bs all the time (which can be funny in certain circumstances but not these one) So far I love the Lemmy community I’ve had some actual thought provoking conversation I’ve not had since early Reddit. I pray to get Lemmy never changes to to much in that regard

And what’s wrong with other nations taking position there that aren’t western? Sad you can no longer exclusively exploit African resources? Chinese relations with the global South is infinitely better than American/Britiish/french relations. I absolutely welcome china but not so much about Russia

Damn bro

Thank you, I’ll check it out

I 1000% agree with this sentiment and to be honest im similar (except engineering EE srufent) and I was managing the world fine with all the increased algorithm and whatnot till COVID hit. I went from immensely internet literate and techy to depressed and stuck on social media all the time from waking up to sleeping I’ll check Instagram (even tho I avoided tiktok for that same reason) honestly I still struggle with this, cause social media is more toxic, pain, and mind destroying then ever before. I hope I can cut this addiction before it’s too late

Be genuinely honest, what did it seem like for the local uguyrs? Do you think the west interpretation of what’s going on there true or an exaggeration?

“it could be worse” the majority of the world would disagree the healthcare system is bad for America but your military corporation are bad for the planet. Israels little dog will supply them with all they need to bomb the middle east and have killed hundreds of thousands already. I promise you every genocide and massacre nowadays America is often complicit in

I’m sorry but when wasn’t Germany a bunch of incel groomers?

"Associated with jihadist terrorism " my friend im guessing you’re not the type to look further then whatever media company throws whatever slop at you. Further reading https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omagh_bombing https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_Street,_Pretoria_bombing https://www.fbi.gov/history/famous-cases/oklahoma-city-bombing

The west saw the Jews as the enemies(foreigners who’ve lived in Europe for so long yet discriminated against them so bad the term anti semitism is formed), then the Germans/Nazis (didn’t want a new empire outshining them), then comes the Soviets and now the arabs and chinese.

All of this to say terrorism is universal and those who link it to jihadis have a point they are trying to justify. In any western nation most of the terrorism is domestic and jihadi terrorisms biggest targets is other Muslims and those who defeated them were mostly Muslim including your bullshit western coalition.

Free reminder that Saudia Arabia is a good western ally BUT ALSO the literal exporter of “Islamist jihadist” as someone who knows the topic can tell you the real fear are sunni wahabism being spread all over the world by saudi arabia and other gulf nations for self interest.

I have a book for you my friend, it’s called humankind. While these wars are making me lose hope again, this relative cutting age history book (cutting age as in new research used in book rather than decade old and often outdated research ) that argues and shows the beauty of our species. I need to read it again, because I’ll be honest I’m losing hope again in humanity Humankind: A Hopeful History https://g.co/kgs/BrbMWsC

I hope things will change but do they? Did imperialism end? Did empires end? Did colonization really end? Slavery? No, it just changed forms, a shackle in new colours. Even if the west was the fall tomorrow the middle east became somehow the new dominant region, with the trauma they faced, would they be any better (hypothetically) I worry for our species as I feel like we’re bomb ourselves before we reach true mastery of this earth or use that mastery to enforce an even wider and more ruthless class system

Well with the bbc it’s essential state run propaganda machine so as long as Britain is on the wrong side of history it’ll stay like that, until 50 years down the line when greater Israel has been formed and many millions of dead are investigated and brought to light, BBC will have “internal” investigation and say something like “never again” it’s all bullshit

I hate that term settler, these sick collective group of humans are trying to bring back 16th century colonialism with 19 century eugenics and racial superiority

That’s all it is, we don’t call the Europeans Romans and it’s the same with the middle east, did Arabs migrate around the world and we share some genetics with them? Sure but in reality it’s in the minority apart of the vast diversity of the genetics of one of the most diverse and ancient regions on the planet. My father used to tell me our ancestors were all Arabs who conquered into sindh and Punjab and settled there, which may or may not be true but in reality when I checked, it was below %5, my ancestors weren’t just Arabs, my ancestors were also Hindus, Sikhs, Jain’s, Zoroastrians, perhaps some Hellenism in there too along with many many many other cultures and religions, which is like a mosaic. Our eyes should be opened now that the western media and imperialism never died in ww1 or ww2 but in reality just changed forms. Do your own research, find primary sources and dig deep. Don’t become a nuthead type conspiracy theory but there is a lot of information and misinformation out there so critical analysis of information is one of the most vital skills you can have now

Palestine was a place for Jews to live in peace and personally the whole religion war is a smokescreen. You look at the stats you look at the footage and historical texts and historic Palestine was a multi faith and cultural society recognition as important to many faiths. It’s not my place to say but even after all this I wholeheartedly accept Jews in Palestine BUT the Jewish supremcist apartheid state is all of the most evil aspects of European colonialism and nazi Germany/american manifest destiny into one shitty little state. Israel has done nothing for anti semitism and may be the thing that resets the clock back to post Roman conquest levels of Jewish hatred if things don’t change. I don’t want that, all humans are humans and no people are a monolith. I pray for a multi faith Palestine with no supremacy of any people (tho Jewish right to return should be revoked and Palestine right to return established as their actually refugees while vast amount of Jews coming to Israel to settle are dual citizens.

Thing is, most likely Palestinians are descendants of Jews who lived in Palestine, who were once the caanites of Canaan and so on and so forth. The Jews who over time converted to islam, (but not all, Christians and Jews still very much exist tho not sure about numbers) before 1918 the Jewish population was a 56,000 thousand and many of those were immigrants by 1939 they were almost half a million