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Okay, I just noticed rule 1 for the community is not the same as rule 1 for Lemmy. I did not notice that rule. Sorry. I really do not understand the purpose of that rule. Makes no sense. Why can we not post our own thoughts, and then support them with a link to an article as background support?
I have yet to see a post linked to an article where the article’s title and the headline of the post were exactly the same. Read the article. It was about the fascist influence on the selection of the Pope, whether it was in the title of the article or not. Rule number 1 is about bigotry.
If you read the article that was linked, you will realize that there is no bigotry in my post. It did not violate rule 1. There can be little doubt that many ‘protestors’ described in the article, operating in name of the Church, were fascists definitely invoking fascist methods in trying to ensure the Pope was from their political dogmatic position. Not a faith-based lower-case ‘c’ church institution following a theological position, but a capital ‘C’ Church as a political entity and position. I made clear I was talking about the Church as a political Empire, not the faith-based Catholic religious themselves. This should have been clear in my reference to The Roman Catholic (Empire) Church. In point of fact, there was a Holy Roman Empire, a resurrection of the Roman Empire, created by a Pope as a ‘state/political’ arm of the Roman Catholic Church. There was, and some would argue, still is a Holy Roman Empire closely associated with the Roman Catholic Church, so as to be relatively interchangeable depending on the purpose.
My point is that fascism is far more prevalent in our Western culture than many realize. It is, indeed, the current Western zeitgeist. It is not just a movement to influence State Elections, but to entrench itself in every facet of human governance, including the leadership of the Church (and, I posit, the church - all churches). Discussing the fascist nature of a sector that, according to the article, is trying to dominate the selection of the Pope is fair game. The irony of your statement is that the true bigots are the ones behind the protests, the fascists themselves.
Narcissists lie because they have no concept of of factual truth. Whatever they say is the truth, because they say it. They do not need to benefit from the lie.
Evil, corrupt, and malicious have nothing to do with fascism, although many fascist entities are all three. Read most definitions, and these terms are not in it. This is typical of the fascist trope - redefine terminology to suit their needs. Applying these three concepts to the ‘woke’ movement. for instance, and then labeling the ‘woke’ movement as ‘fascist’.
Microsoft certainly qualifies, and so does Musk. Musk does not want to ‘rule over humankind’, he just believes he is superior to everyone, the same way all narcissists do. He wants everyone to do his biding but otherwise he has no desires over how they live their lives.
However, the Roman Catholic (Empire) Church IS all three - evil, corrupt, and malicious. But that has nothing to do with it being fascist, that is just the natural outcome of absolute power in a fascist culture.
Being ‘racist’ has, at its basic tenant, has nothing to do with ‘race’ as much as it has to do with ‘being other than me’. A Catholic believing that all other religions are inferior to them is just as much a manifestation of ‘racism’ as discrimination by skin color.
Ahh, yes.Typical obfuscation to make it look innocent. Typical response of the Catholic fascist movement. Corporations have many characteristics of fascism, and I definitely do not think it is an admirable quality about them. I repeat my contention that fascism is the zeitgeist of current Western thought. Because it is so prevalent in Western culture does not make it ‘watered down’. The difference is, corporations have no desire to rule over humankind, only to dominate their respective industry. You obviously have not read the article. The Vatican is about as far removed from being responsive to a democratic public as the assassination of Pope John Paul I
To be clear, the definition of fascism in this context is: fascism
from The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, 5th Edition.
noun A system of government marked by centralization of authority under a dictator, a capitalist economy subject to stringent governmental controls, violent suppression of the opposition, and typically a policy of belligerent nationalism and racism.I consider that the Roman Catholic (Empire) Church operates as a ‘nation empire’, in the sense that it is a direct descendant of the Roman Empire, and still refuses to accept the terms of the Peace of Westphalia (which established our notion of ‘Statehood vs empire’), and that ‘racism’ applies equally to the ‘supremacy of a religion over all other religions’.
Actually, when I taught at a high school in Mississauga, I could name students who had each immigrated from one of over 140 countries. Does that count?
Because it would have been the THIRD "Great War’.
By the time the second period came around, everyone agreed this was a continuation of the 1914-18 war, not a new war.
I am not debating that the 1914-18 war was called a ‘World War’ while it was ongoing, my point is that it never had the label capital ‘F’ ‘First’ added to it, or ‘World War One’, until the second period started.
The ‘Chronicles of Riddick’ franchise was not called ‘Chronicles…’ or any reference to Riddick’ as the main character until the second film came out. No one actually expected a sequel until well after the first iteration was released. Absolutely no one planned for a second Riddick movie while the first was being shot. They were worried about Pitch Black even breaking even.
Same with the nomenclature of the 1914-18 war.
You can’t have a war without having ‘war crimes’. Even n organized sports, they have referees and penalties for disobeying the rules.
No, it’s just narcissism. Nothing special about his actions, they are all classic narcissistic behaviors.
That’s why it was called a ‘World War’.
Your complete ignorance about what is happening in China is appalling. It also smells of racism.
My reply was not meant to contradict what you said, only to clarify the term ‘stupid’. It is quite correct to call Jordan ‘stupid’ without reference to his intelligence. Trump is, in fact; reasonably intelligent in a narcissistic way, but I also do not think he can be called ‘stupid’ for what he is doing, in the sense that he has every intention of causing the chaos he is, the chaos is ‘good results’ as far as he is concerned. It is not ‘unintended consequences’ on his part, it is not any lack of understanding on his part, it is deliberate and expected results. After all, he took many of his companies bankrupt as a legitimate business move, to stop the bleeding. On the other hand, the people who FOLLOW him CAN be considered ‘stupid’ under the definition.
That is, it is not reasonable to label Trump as stupid for doing what he is doing in order to achieve his objectives, but it is stupid to go along with it. It is perhaps stupid for people to not realize what Trump’s real objectives are. It is reasonable to label most of the Americans who voted for him as stupid (except those who actually agree with the 2025 Manifesto objectives). But given what Trump’s objectives are, it is quite reasonable and rational to expect him to do what he is doing.
Also to expound on the difference between ‘fascism’ and small ‘c’ ‘conservative’ vs capital ‘C’ Conservative.
There is a very big difference between calling it the ‘first’ (lower case ‘f’ and the ‘First’ (upper case ‘F’ World War. The lower case ‘f’ implies that it was the first war to be fought on a world canvas. (However, it was far from being the first such war. The American Revolution was, in fact, just part of a bigger global world war. ) The upper case ‘F’ implies it will be part of a series, and is thus part of the name. The correct quote has the ‘f’ as lower case, not the upper case as you altered it to be. This is evident in the context of the quote. He was looking for a unique name for the war, and that unique name was ‘World War’, or ‘The Wold War’. It was the first war to be called that, making it a unique name, in his perspective. He was pretty sure there would be another war, but to be unique it would certainly not be called The World War, or even the Second World War. Otherwise The Second Great War would have been an acceptable name.
I read a LOT about History, and it seems that the history YOU are reading is ‘Alternate Historical Fiction’, not good sold History. It is not ‘trying to give the other side of the story’, it is pure anti-Chinese racism. They are not counter-arguments at all, they are pure racist propaganda talking points. Not a word you said has any basis in the factual historic record.
China is doing exactly what it needs to raise its people out of poverty, allowing them to take their proper place in the world order. Nothing to do with greed. There is EVERY justification for China to do what it is doing, there is NO justification except pure racism to try to prevent China from doing it.
Apparently Trump has made it official - he thinks he will be the next Pope.
Unfortunately, you will be celebrating too soon. Vance is far more fascist-oriented than Trump will ever be.
“Stupid” is deliberately doing what you should KNOW is counter to good results. It has nothing to do with intelligence. The winners of the Darwin Awards usually do not lack intelligence, they are just stupid (or at least just do stupid things).
Being very conservative with your money, handling it in a conservative manner, running a business conservatively, has nothing to do with fascism. THAT is the problem we are currently facing - the blunt fact that fascism is not the same as being conservative (small ‘c’), but that the Conservatives (capital ‘C’) are also becoming fascist along with being conservative. Two entirely different things.
Diefenbaker could NEVER, in any intelligent discussion, be labeled as a ‘fascist’. He was in many ways very socially responsible.
Carney, although he is the leader of the Liberal party, will methinks turnout to be conservative in his economic policies, just like Turner was.
There can be little doubt that many ‘protestors’ described in the article, operating in name of the Church, were fascists definitely invoking fascist methods in trying to ensure the Pope was from their political dogmatic position. Not a faith-based lower-case ‘c’ church institution following a theological position, but a capital ‘C’ Church as a political entity and position. I again make clear I was talking about the Church as a political Empire, not the faith-based Catholic religious themselves. This I hope was clear in my reference to The Roman Catholic (Empire) Church. In point of fact, there was a Holy Roman Empire, a resurrection of the Roman Empire, created by a Pope as a ‘state/political’ arm of the Roman Catholic Church. There was, and some would argue, still is a Holy Roman Empire closely associated with the Roman Catholic Church, so as to be relatively interchangeable depending on the purpose.
My point is that fascism is far more prevalent in our Western culture than many realize. It is, indeed, the current Western zeitgeist. It is not just a movement to influence State Elections, but to entrench itself in every facet of human governance, including the leadership of the Church (and, I posit, the church - all churches).