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You’re still talking for some reason, so i guess I’ve changed my mind, you and your bad argument need a good drubbin’

I can’t wait spank me daddy.

No matter who you are now, if you are a yank or westerner? chances are you were once a liberal, cuz that’s where we all start.

Already off to a bad start. I was born in the Ukranian SSR. My software is Marxist-Leninist from birth.

Liberal brainworms are lost throughout the life cycle of all leftists, and you have one in particular i’d have you expunge.

Spank me daddy.

Your specific bug is: coming into this thread to make a very specific point, phrasing it in such a way as to foment argument, and engaging in ad-hominem. (Do not @ me with the literal definition of liberal holmes, i see your fingers twitchin’)

Oh no I was mean??? How could I be so mean and so incendiary. Could It be because I am shit posting?

Whatever you claim your politics are, the words you use itt have that hallmark-huff of pigshit on em what tells me you’ve got a lot more reading on logic to do before you are able to hold useful discussions. Until then, you are a liberal. Sorry, i don’t make the rules.

Everyone who is mean to me is a lib. I don’t make the rules.

You’ll start by understanding on a deep level that you’re average. You’re not dumb by any means but remember! You’re not above average either, ok? Don’t take it from me, tell yourself this, even if you don’t believe it. It’s the only way you’ll rise above lib-level posting.

Lmao good one, you want me to send you a head shot so you can use the calipers?

If nothing else, Leftists need to be convincing and focused and what you’re serving is harmful noise.

Ah yeah shitposting on the shitposting site is harmful noise if you’re shitposting in the wrong direction.

Outside of this thread, could you defend the posts and attitude you took today to your leftist peers?

Yes. This is stupid online noise that doesn’t actually mean anything, my leftist peers in real life do actual organizing with me and also shitpost online when they’re bored.

You’re doing shit that isn’t really productive.

Yes. I need to be more productive on lemmy, the most productive place of all time, not a place I go off shitposting.

Idk how you don’t understand that people are supportive of the fact he killed a ceo.

If I was to fully describe the irony that is happening here it is this: “Hexbear culture is now seemingly tolerating if not out and out celebrating a fascist for something he’s done, but will not tolerate a fascist in order to get them to do something they would find worthy of celebration.”

The issue is you have bad reading comprehension and read a level of sincerity or complete misrepresentation into most of the comments you’ve replied to.

This is a valid criticism that boils down to me being an annoying jerk in this instance and is very valid.

Half of the people in these threads don’t even know wtf you’re talking about

I can see this as true.

bc you stood on a soapbox about how the guy is reactionary as if everyone didn’t already know that lol

Yeah I really again don’t buy this, there’s plenty of “benefit of the doubt” being given here to shitposters. The same shitposters would be banned for supporting fash if they said the same exact things for a different reactionary moron. My problem is that if your excitement for the death of a CEO is leading to tongue and cheek, am I joking am I not, rehab of this dude, you’re not as ideologically committed to “leftism” as you claim.

So say it very plainly, I’m not sad a healthcare CEO died. I’m sad that if tomorrow Atom Waffen (or similar neo-reactionary group) started executing healthcare CEO’s there’s a portion of this site that would be like “based” – when politically that’s really troubling even if they’re killing “our enemies”.

There’s absolutely not a clear-eyed ideological understanding here among the majority of users. There’s simply blood lust.

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First sentence:

Ah yeah i don’t see that particular cope myself

The very next sentence:

If Luigi is in fact our boy

You’re in a post reporting his manifesto included bootlicking my dude. You are the cope.

I love these comments more than the actual attempts to rehab this dude because “being mad” is literally the undercurrent that drives the rehabilitation. I frankly don’t give a shit about this guy anymore. I’m simply tired of seeing this lazy shit on my page, and waiting for the other shoe to drop.

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Willem Van Spronsen was a committed anarchist. Luigi reads Curtis Yarvin. Stop rehabilitating fascists.

The most we know about his manifesto is that it quotes Kazinsky. He’s a third positionist at best.

he just has a confused ideology

There’s is an entire ideology for techbros that exists as an outgrowth of Deluze/Guattari, Lyotard and Mark Fisher which often mixes with the Kazinsky/Linkola/Hardin set at the “green” edges. It’s modern advocates are the Curtis Yarvin, Nick Land, and Hoppe. They literally name their magazines shit like Thermidor Magazine, their ideological views are based on similar history that Marxism is. In fact many of them have read Marx and agree with various observations historical, ideological, and sociological, but not the prescriptions.

It’s not “confused”, it simply has the following premises:

0. History does not trend toward progress
1. People are not are equal
2. The over class (often based on some kind of “philosopher king” or “titan of industry” vague qualification, but at their most honest are often explicitly racist) deserve the “fire of Prometheus” (technology, capital, power) because only they can wield it responsibly.
3. The under class do not deserve the “fire of Prometheus” because they cannot form a stable society (insert more racism/bullshit here)
4. By accelerating the contradictions they see in society, they can force a cataclysm that consolidates and binds the underclass and reinvigorates the over class.

It’s a messianic reskinning of capitalist boom and bust cycles. They aren’t confused. They know what they’re saying. They simply cannot close their eyes to the types of observations that they’ve heard from leftists that resonate with them, they simply decide on different causes and different rectifications.

You’re not gonna fight this on “leftist” ground simply because some of them also hate healthcare. They’ll agree with your arguments on healthcare and ignore you for the rest.

You effectively can’t, at least in a purely in an additive way. Unlike Stalin this site uses democratic centralism not to maintain some kind of power structure, but as a way to provide an objective safe space for various people. The cost of that safe space is the curtailing of discussion about the practical aspects and difficult edges of organizing, politics and theory.

Switching to a more subjective moderation to promote discussion would put people at risk of having to deal with the discussions whether in good faith or not regarding things that may feel unsavory and unsafe. Also let’s be honest, there isn’t that much basic discussion of theory that goes on here in comparison to the shit posting, so the change really wouldn’t matter as much.

Unfortunately the left doesn’t have the easy simple problem of “eternal September” to contend with, we have an “eternal September” that has to be intersectional. It’s in general a problem of trust, and it’s a hard one to solve for online communities.

I’m being crucified like a dog in the street and you’re sitting here just laughing???