• rtxn@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    It’s a monkey paw deal. Greater intelligence means a greater understanding of the world and how much it sucks.

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      “the world sucks” is a conclusion drawn from your present level of intelligence. You might draw different conclusions when you hit the next level of intelligence.

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        1 year ago

        Let’s look at an example.

        Level 1 INT:

        Israeli invaders are killing Palestinian civilians in Gaza.

        Level 2 INT:

        Israeli invaders are killing Palestinian civilians in Gaza, and the USA is funding them.

        Level 3 INT:

        Israeli invaders are killing Palestinian civilians in Gaza. The invasion is an indirect result of harrassment and conflicts between Israel and irregular muslim extremist militants. The American involvement stems from a foreign aid agreement from the 1960s (rooted in WWII events) and several terrorist attacks against America by the same extremist groups.

        No, greater understanding doesn’t make it better. Things don’t happen in a vacuum and the good (or understandable) doesn’t cancel out the bad.

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          1 year ago

          How about

          Level 1 : ideas are vessels of truth

          Level 2 : ideas are toys

          Level 3 : ideas are the spoor of alien sex demons

          I mean who knows?

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        Even if only 10% of the world sucks, that is enough for t"he world sucks" to be accurate. It is higher than that, and barely anything that happens doesn’t include something negative as an outcome.

        Community celebrations often uplift most people while ostracizing a portion of the population. Many people see things that could uplift everyone as zero sum games and then make sure they end up that way. Many times there are glaringly obvious solutions that are either held back or are implemented and then completely undone in short order by regressive groups. Even recognizing how many positive sounding slogans are blatant lies to mislead the masses, but everyone has fallen for them, is seriously depressing.

        And all of that could be easily understood by the average person if they didn’t want to believe the positive stuff was true and that those that speak up about unfair treatment are just seeing things wrong.

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          Alright, become infinitely intelligent, create some ai to take over the world, and using your superintelligence, solve the alignment problem and make everything perfect for everyone.

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            Won’t work because people really hate things being obviously forced onto them, even positive things.

            Plus I would be smart enough to know that it is a futile endeavor in the long run even if it was successful.

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              You’d be smart enough to be sneaky about it. Play the old “inflame their passions” then “supply a satisfying rationale for said passions” propaganda kung fu.

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              You’d also be smart enough to work around it. You’d be able to strategically convince the right people to implement it, and convince enough people to support it for it to go through, then the remaining detractors are either propagandized into liking it (like how business and governments do things now, but much better), or they remain in a small minority who will never change their minds, but aren’t important because nobody else cares.

              Or you could use your superintelligence to make make an ai that makes people okay with it in the same way the hypothetical earworm ai does https://youtu.be/-JlxuQ7tPgQ?si=yCSfctxpmaOdbnTd

              Or there’s some way that none of us could possibly come up with that would simultaneously work perfectly and is completely ethical. There’s no way to say, but saying it definitely won’t ever work i think is just due to a lack of imagination in this case.

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          That’s just your intelligence level talking. A couple whacks on the button and you’ll be thinking something completely different.

          “See, it’s just your Matrix pod needs a new filter.”

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        This isn’t meant as a brag, but as ethos. I am openly considered to be the most intelligent(book smarts) person I know. Not by me, but by everyone around me.

        Through self reflection, i have realised that suffering is universally bad. Unfortunately, we evolved in a darwinian universe, and as such suffering is inevitable. My conclusion is that the only way to permanantly erase suffering is to permanantly erase everything with the ability to suffer.

        All life in the universe must be erased, or else things may eventually evolve to commit even greater atrocities than the human race has already managed.