Roughly six pages from more than 8,500 documents provided by Epstein’s estate to Democratic members on the House Oversight Committee include meeting schedules appearing to show appointments with Bannon and venture capitalist Peter Thiel during Donald Trump’s first term in office.
The documents also mention Musk joining a potential trip to Epstein’s island in 2014.
Prince Andrew also is listed in the documents as a passenger on Epstein’s aircraft, with financial disclosures provided to the committee suggesting evidence of payments from Epstein to an individual listed as “Andrew.”
His appointment with Bannon in 2019 was just months before Epstein was federally charged with trafficking and sexually abusing dozens of minors. Epstein pleaded not guilty and was found dead in a jail cell in New York in August 2019.
His appointment with Bannon in 2019 was just months before Epstein was federally charged with trafficking and sexually abusing dozens of minors. Epstein pleaded not guilty and was found dead in a jail cell in New York in August 2019.
It is mostly conjecture at this point, but the more I research it the more it looks like she had a part in it. Maybe she just happened to be kicking it with all the chimos and she is innocent. Somehow I doubt this.
I was just telling my wife that I think she was in on her husband’s murder. He was not backing down from the Epstein shit and it was creating a rift in their party. If he found out she was also in on the child prostitution ring it had the potential to blow up really big.
After learning the official US explanation of his death is completely bunk (he was not shot from the front) and then her quick to forgive the supposed shooter because of “Jesus” I started getting very suspicious.
I had already thought the most likely culprits were either Russia or Israel as they had the most to gain from further polarizing the US.
I will admit I could be full of shit, but I am seeing a lot of red flags and things are not adding up.
You’re just taking that for granted as true? Why? Only source I had on that was some random YouTuber suggested to me. His credentials seemed to be “I’m a gun guy”. I don’t tend to believe that conspiracy theories play out in public like that.
There’s a video that CBS put out, directly after the shooting someone is scanning the crowd with their camera and caught video of the shooter running off the roof. Again, RIGHT AFTER. People are just starting to run out of the event, realizing what happened.
Yet…! The gun is an old WW1 Mauser that requires a screwdriver and time to disassemble. The FBI later said they found a screwdriver on the roof (even though crime scene photos of the roof don’t show it) and claim that he unscrewed this gun in almost an instant, left the screwdriver on the roof, jumped down with the gun taken apart, and then reassembled the gun and left it for cops to find.
Not to mention they had his body on Airforce 1 well before a forensic autopsy could typically be completed.
I used to volunteer with retired police detectives for online investigations for missing persons, Does, and cold cases. This shit does not make any fucking sense. Literally their timeline doesn’t add up with the timelines of the videos of the shooter or the event. It just doesn’t.
I don’t even need to get into whether the ammo was actually a 30-06 or if the triangulation of the gunshot confirms the shooters location because the timeline itself is already wrong.
Gotta wonder if the reason they are blatantly fucking up the investigations including Luigi’s is so the public stops using the justice system and starts relying on their own methods.
Sure you did. You totally weren’t just some weirdo on reddit doing half assed research that never went anywhere. You aren’t a criminal investigator, so you can stop pretending to be one now.
Lol I accept you think that.
furiously types Lemmy username into search engine and begins cross referencing hits with conspiracy websites as dramatic music fades in
Ok, that was always allowed
I understand it’s not illegal to be a fake investigator. Nice profile pic btw 🤣
What?
I’m so confused why you keep sharing as if anyone gives a fuck what a person like you thinks lol
I don’t see how this has anything to do with what op wrote about the bullet coming from the opposite direction. Also, the rifle being taken apart thing was debunked
The rifle being taken apart is the official FBI narrative of what happened
I don’t really care to nitpick, but I am pretty sure they retracted that almost immediately.
But regardless the FBI is being run by a moron right now. For you that’s evidence they pulled off a conspiracy. For me it’s the opposite.
? What?
I don’t think it has been retracted. Kash Patel was talking about the screwdriver and DNA testing it.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c203qgn61geo
It’s not run by morons by accident, but because they are deliberately breaking it. I think that’s pretty obvious.
Also, we are arguing about this statement of yours:
You are literally arguing here that the official US explanation is true and that people criticizing it are wrong. Have you now changed your position that it isn’t true, due to incompetence?
I am arguing that when you watch video of what happened and a killer running away that’s obvious what happened. Had they said nothing at all, anyone not engaged in conspiracy shit would understand. I know what it’s like to argue with you so let’s please stop. You’ve never been wrong before, ever.
Had they not said anything at all - but they did, and it contradicts reality of what we see. That’s entirely the point of what’s being discussed.
You’re correct, like everyone, I argue when I believe I am correct, as that is what an argument is lol. Lemmy dudes are genuinely pathetic every time.
Just to flip this around, why would you take what the government says as truth considering they are literally lying about everything?
Having said that I did my own analysis after watching said gun guy show the evidence. Everything he said was accurate including the blood splatter on Eric’s shirt a frame afterwards indicating it was definitely an exit wound on the left side of his neck.
Honestly it doesn’t take an expert to see there is no probable way that a wound on the left side of his neck, which is clearly an exit wound, was from a shot in the front. Also, the official explanation with the caliber makes no sense as Kirk would have been missing half of his neck.
I am open to new evidence, but considering Airforce 2 whisked his body away immediately afterwards just raises yet more red flags.
…I’m not. I’m taking video evidence, some of it released within seconds of the incident. I’m not taking any random’s (who stands to gain on YT ad revenue) statements on it as truth or thinking I can myself do the work of forensic experts, all in order to deny what my own eyes tell me seems a cut and dried truth.
Then there’s the other fact which no one can ever change. Pulling off any hoax, especially one that unfolds in public, requires far more competence, coordination, and silence than I’m aware of any group of people having.
I assume you believe a lot of other conspiracy theories. Was 9/11 an inside job? Did we land on the moon? According to what you wrote above, those both should just as easily be theories that are likely true. We landed on the moon. 9/11 wasn’t an inside job. Tyler Robinson killed Charlie Kirk.
I haven’t yet seen a need to take one iota of info provided by government to come to those conclusions. Occam’s razor is a thing for good reason.
If you don’t want to watch the video analysis and then do it yourself that is up to you.
https://youtu.be/ltakvGyzfZs
I don’t find your musings very compelling especially as it seems you are trying to purposely make as many logical fallacies as you can.
You bring up a bunch of low hanging fruit but ignore actually important things like when Snowden exposed magic lantern and project echelon. Why wouldn’t you bring up supposed conspiracy theories that turned out to be true with vast numbers of people working for the US government knowing about it and not leaking it.
The devil’s always in the details. Was 9/11 an inside job is spurious to the truth that the government used it to take away our rights and attack nations that had nothing to do with it.
So far it looks like the governments explanation is a lie and you can wave your hands so hard you can fly straight to the moon for all I care.
Don’t forget Air America, an airline owned and operated secretly by the CIA. Which the CIA now admits to and has on their website.
When I initially replied, it was in good faith. But you’ve shown yourself to be yet another Lemmy user with a bizarre opinion who thinks everyone else is stupid for not sharing it. It’s not on me to disprove some hairbrained theory. Kinda does that to itself.
What theory!? I just said the government wasn’t telling the truth and I am open to any evidence you can provide.
Hey, I get it. You just said all the classic shit to dismiss someone and I dismissed you instead. You are in over your head, you don’t have answers for what I say. That is okay.
Yeah this other person is clearly just arguing against thinking. They aren’t in good faith at all.
You’ve internalized a nobody YouTuber as evidence of some grand conspiracy. To you, that’s legit evidence and Occam’s razor can go fuck itself. Who needs a degree in forensic analysis when you can watch a video and then read the Wikipedia blood spatter page that one time?
Not much point in pushing me for “evidence”. The evidence is public, but go ahead with your standard online arguer shit: whatever cockamamie horseshit you spout is gospel unless someone takes 47 minutes to unsuccessfully change your mind about it.
You said you were open to evidence but somehow I doubt it. And no, at this point I won’t waste more of my time with you. You believe a conspiracy theory which sounds stupid tbh. You won’t get any validation from me or from arguing with me further.
Uh he was shot from the front? You can watch a slow mo of it bouncing off his vest
That’s completely false. There’s no video of it bouncing off his vest. There’s a video that shows a shockwave hitting the front of his shirt, along with a different video showing a shockwave causing a similar effect to the back of his shirt too. In the video, it does not appear that he is wearing a vest.
There are videos of a vapor trail coming from Charlie’s right a frame before he was killed though. The hole we saw looks a lot more like an exit wound from a smaller caliber rifle. It was certainly not a 30-06.
A 30-06 round is pretty much 2x the size of a 5.56 round (what an AR-15 uses). It would have been insanely loud, people would have turned their heads to see where it came from, and Charlie’s head would have been blown up. It wouldn’t have been the hole with blood that we saw if it were a 30-06. 30-06 is meant for taking out Elk and Grizzly Bears.
I agree with you on the size thing, maybe we saw different videos, in the one I saw however a small projectile which appeared to strick the front of his vest and bounce upwards into his neck, I am also basing this on memory, there is something extremely odd about this
Go back and watch from more than one angle. Let’s just say we are seeing entirely different things.
I only found one video, where would I find them?
I didn’t know others existed until I saw this guy talking about it.
https://youtu.be/ltakvGyzfZs
Holy fuck it’s his mic I saw
There’s a video that CBS put out, directly after the shooting someone is scanning the crowd with their camera and caught video of the shooter running off the roof. Again, RIGHT AFTER. People are just starting to run out of the event, realizing what happened.
Yet…! The gun is an old WW1 Mauser that requires a screwdriver to disassemble. The FBI later said they found a (iirc blue) screwdriver on the roof (even though crime scene photos of the roof don’t show it) and claim that he unscrewed this gun in almost an instant, left the screwdriver on the roof, jumped down with the gun taken apart, and then reassembled the gun and left it for cops to find.
Not to mention they had his body on Airforce 1 well before a forensic autopsy could typically be completed.