• CameronDev@programming.dev
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    If you seperate “addiction” “addictive” into habit forming and dependancy, alcohol seems to be far safer in terms of habit forming (millions of people drink alcohol at without falling into dependancy), and far more dangerous in terms of dependancy (as you said, can kill you with withdrawal). (Edited to address typo/braindumb)

    My (and presumably the person you quoted) internal definition of addictive skews towards the habit forming side of things, so in that respect its correctish?

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      1 year ago

      Habit forming and addiction are two different things entirely. Addiction is dependency.

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        You’re right, i mis-typed, I meant addictive instead of addiction in that first sentence.

        Addiction is dependency, but addictive is used commonly to describe habit forming. That may not be medically accurate, but its how the word is commonly used. With that context, the statement “Alcohol is not directively addictive” is a reasonable statement.

        But you are correct, once you are addicted to alcohol, it is very dangerous.

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          1 year ago

          Nope. Still not a reasonable statement. Alcohol is habit forming and addictive. I dunno why you keep trying to play semantics with nonsense arguments honestly.

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            1 year ago

            Because billions of people drink alcohol without forming a habit. To argue that alcohol is habit forming to the same degree as nicotine or heroine is just as wrong.

            I guess we will just have to disagree.

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              Did I say it was habit forming to the same degree? You claimed it wasn’t habit forming at all. You’re wrong.

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                Addictive for many people means habit forming. You wrote “directly and extremely addictive”. I misunderstood that as you claiming that alcohol is extremely habit forming. It sounds like you have some personal qualified experience in this area, so I am gonna drop it.

                To end on a note that i am sure we agree on, the OP is an idiot.