I figured that was most of this forum. Even the people who are clearly minority comrades say this to me basically " all forms of oppression must be fought back against, now, but class is the primary mode of oppression"
I figured that was most of this forum. Even the people who are clearly minority comrades say this to me basically " all forms of oppression must be fought back against, now, but class is the primary mode of oppression"
If you don’t put class first I think you’re a rad lib no matter what you tell me.
Not putting class first is literally how you get this killer Mike landlord black capitalism shit. Yass kweening raytheon’s first female CEO, etc.
Don’t @ me with a bunch of words I don’t care if class isn’t the center of your framing you’re the same as some half nazi petty bourg fuckkl to me
The issue is that “class first” has a super broad meaning. There are people who say “class first” to mean that bourgeoisie identity politics are not liberation (ie Raytheon’s first female CEO). And there are people who say “class first” as a pretense to tell the uppity minorities to fuck off and stop “splitting the movement” over their issues.
The second isn’t putting class first, ironically.
Yea I mean im not advocating stupidpol like abandonment of other issues for sure
I figured as much. When I’m around libs I’ll push the class issue and just risk getting called a class reductionist if they’ve got intense brainworms. When I’m around comrades, I feel like the nuances and pitfalls are worth pointing out for lurkers. But I absolutely agree with you that someone celebrating the bourgeois-ification of a minority group is super sus radlib shit
A fair perspective so long as you recognize that all fighting all forms of oppression is still important.