• Blackmist@feddit.uk
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    7 days ago

    The pricing of this is really going to fuck them.

    BotW should be like $10 by now. The fucking DLC for it still costs twice that.

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      7 days ago

      Switch 2 is going to be a repeat of the Wii U disaster.

      “No Timmy, I’m not paying 500 dollars for Mario Kart. Don’t you already have that game?”

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        6 days ago

        I wish it wasn’t true, because the wii u had some great games and ideas, and the switch 2 definitely will as well.

        But yeah, a HUGE portion of Nintendo’s sales come from being the budget, kid friendly option. When a parent sees a ps5, xbox and switch 2 all lined up for roughly the same price, Nintendo isn’t going to be the default choice it once was.

        And it kinda sucks because all people do is hate on the switch for its lower performance. The only way to get better performance is to put more expensive parts in leading to a higher price. They can’t win in some ways.

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      7 days ago

      10 year old mario kart 8 is like 70 bucks or somethingwith dlc. They have lost their mind and people still pay for it.

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          7 days ago

          Something interesting is that Steam users, (myself included) will ignore a game not on sale, I couldn’t tell you why. The only thing I can think of is that we are so used to things being “on sale” we forget that there was a reason it was priced at that amount in the first place.

          $60 $70 looks better than $60

          Factorio is an interesting example, its never on sale. It’s just the price. In fact it keeps going up in price.

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            6 days ago

            I couldn’t tell you why.

            Because steam always has a plethora of amazing games on sale. You could never buy a full price game and still never run out of awesome things to play. And even if there is a particular game you want, it’ll almost certainly be on sale within a few months. I’d have to double check, but I don’t think I’ve paid more than 40 bucks for any single game in years.

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      7 days ago

      The Steam Deck can run Biebian and Hannah Montana Linux fairly easily. That’s not really a selling point just another thing Nintendo isn’t bringing to the table.

      I impulse bought a deluxe Need for Speed game a few weeks ago for $6.50. I’ve already played it 65 hours. I don’t want to jump into the math of it but I reckon I would need to enjoy Mario Kart for much greater than 650 hours before I would get the same hours per dollar value NfS: Heat has brought me thanks to a Steam sale. And Mario Kart could never catch up in miles per hour.

      Just a heads up you’ll get to learn how to navigate Linux if you change your mind on the starter car. The only way I could start a new save file was by manually deleting the old one in the file system. It was a little frustrating but served as a good reminder that it is a handheld computer not just an outlet for gaming.

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    6 days ago

    Not a Nintendo fanboy. But their own IP games are truly fun. That alone is enough incentive to buy the switch

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    7 days ago

    I don’t know what Nintendo was thinking by doing the Nintendo tax bullshit harder than ever during a time when Americans are facing such heavy financial burdens

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      7 days ago

      These tariffs suck for sure, but America is not the center of the world : the pricing of these games is insane and looks like a poor marketing decision globally

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        7 days ago

        I’m aware, but it’s worth noting since America is usually a big consumer country, and right now, we can’t onsume.

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      7 days ago

      Most likely they came up with the plan while people thought Trump was not going to do the crazy stuff he kept talking about…

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        7 days ago

        To still go through with it and have Doug Bowser give this “Do you guys not have phones?” level bullshit defense?

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          7 days ago

          It seems these idiots do not have the emotional intelligence we try to enforce in toddlers to recognize when a mistake was done, make apologies and rectify… instead they quadruple down and keep pushing as if their idea is now even more genius than before.

          This is how we end up with Trump literally destroying the US economy while people wonder “is it outrageous stupidity or intergalactic 17 dimensional chess?”

          We have never (to my knowledge) lived in a real life, non analogy, of the Emperor has no clothes

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    7 days ago

    I love my Steam Deck but it doesn’t have Mario Kart or even anything like it

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    7 days ago

    Sadly the trend of $80 for a digital copy of games will be copied by every major AAA studio in the following years if Nintendo succeed. The switch 1 games are not pricer than others at launch, they just never for whatever fucking reason become cheaper.

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      6 days ago

      And then AAA studios will see their games stay on digital shelves indefinitely and pirating skyrocket and they’ll learn that they’re not nintendo and trying to be will bankrupt them.

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      7 days ago

      I’m really interested in the reaction now that Nintendo has popped the seal, because I think GTA6 even if it launches a buggy mess, ive seen people say they would pay $100 for it.

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    6 days ago

    You don’t live in Australia do you

    All our games cost $100AUD even on steam

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      7 days ago

      This statement manages to be sorta true while also missing that there’s more great games on steam than the entire, mature Switch 1 library.

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        7 days ago

        Right. “10% of a million versus 50% of a thousand” type situation. Plus, Steam’s pretty good at promoting the better games, even the obscure ones.

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      7 days ago

      I dont think you’re wrong but Luckily Steam has a decent algorithm for making sure the best games rise to the top of your store page based on your similar games played/wishlisted.

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        7 days ago

        They have that I agree. The steam deck is at least $300 more than the switch 2 where I live so to me the comparison isn’t fair.

        Edit: i just went online and $110 for a dock is insane, I don’t know why steam doesn’t get called out for that. The steam deck i want is already $800+ tax

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      7 days ago

      That 10% that’s good is still a larger library than you could ever reasonably expect to play, even if you don’t have a job. But I also think there’s a massive amount of games that could be good and just no one’s played them.

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        Kinda the point of my comment, nobody sees the irony. I just went on steam and there are games that are $120+. All these companies have varying games and prices.i just want people to remember that Steam is a corporation and Gabe is a billionaire. Don’t let them pull the same shit musk did, stop worshipping corporations and billionaires and posting memes to start some sort of brand corporate team war

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          Personally I don’t ever advocate for billionaires but I’ve been using steam for a long time and they have very consumer friendly return policies. Would I like them to take less of a cut from the devs and clamp down on micro transaction bullshit? Absolutely. Are they actively trying to fuck my like most big corps? I don’t really think so.

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        7 days ago

        I thin this is mostly for games like Elden Ring and Cyberpunk 2077, which are too big to actually fit on a cartridge.

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          CDPR already released a statement that CP2077 will be released on a 64GB cart. Safe to assume the whole base game will be physical which is a plus.

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        7 days ago

        First-party games are still fully on the cart and the Game-Key Cards are a cheap option for third parties, for now…

        I personally don’t trust Nintendo to not try this on their first-party titles at some point though.

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          At least the game key cards are still transferable and not tied to any one account or device

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          Nah, Japan and Nintendo particularly has a big culture around physical ownership. That’s why they were so behind on an online store and why the current one is also bad - they don’t put an emphasis on it.

          Even the game key cards are novel - it’s technically a way to sell digital copies of games via physical hardware, which no other company has ever done (I don’t think there’s any other big companies that offer you seem digital copies at all actually) - at least, while servers are around. You can even let friends borrow them.

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      Not with the Switch 2 bringing back dongle DRM and applying it to downloaded games ala the Game-Key Card.

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      7 days ago

      I don’t care about the origin of a company as much as I do about whether or not they engaging anti-consumer practices.

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        6 days ago

        Correction: Black Companies in Japan are unethical

        Black companies being the term for what you and I know as evil companies like amazon for example

        This is like me saying

        “European corporations are known for being unethical too to completely fair.” (Was going to use america in this example but that countries gone down the shitter) because some employers are unethical.

        I hate how people online have some sort of hate boner for Japan where they take some small issue and say the entirety of Japan is like that.

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      7 days ago

      I’m not saying you should stop, but I am saying people like you are the reason pokemon is so bad these days.

      Seriously, a real fan needs to have standards, otherwise you’re just a simp. Scarlet and Violet should have been the final straw - though sword and shield should have been better too…

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      Me too except that they’ve already indicated pretty much to everyone that they’re not going to in any way innovate on the idea.