• chronicledmonocle@lemmy.world
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    6 hours ago

    Honestly? Might not be a bad idea to consider buying a used Tesla after they tank in value.

    1. No money goes to Elon in that exchange, so you’re not supporting the fascist prick. They made their money off the first buyer.

    2. It’s environmentally friendly to buy a used vehicle, rather than a new one, as you extend it’s life and reduce it’s carbon footprint

    3. Since everybody is abandoning them, they’re cheaper than other options.

    My only reservation is that I’d be driving around a Tesla still, so if I did something like this I’d have to de-brand the hell out of it somehow to make it appear as a generic “an car”.

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      5 hours ago

      Your heart’s in the right place but this is bad advice.

      Teslas are still wickedly expensive to repair and there’s only the dealership who can do those repairs.

      And the parts break way too often, even parts that shouldn’t break ever, like the door handles that only Tesla can replace. The cost of that can apparently be over $1k. For a door handle.

      It’d be a money pit after the warranty period runs out. You’re still going to be better off with a run of the mill beater car

      Until Tesla allows other shops to do repairs, those swastikars will never be economical even if you ignore the Nazi part

      Your point about buying used being better for the environment also applies to older gas powered cars too, which will be easier and cheaper to repair

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        1 hour ago

        Obligatory fuck elon before I write the rest of the comment.

        I have had a Tesla for 4 years now and as a car they are quite good (newer models got worse).

        Super cheap to run, no oil, no filters other than cabin air, no yearly dealership maintenance to keep the warranty. And you charge it at home, super cheap and convenient. (yeah, same applies for any other electric car).

        Repair costs (had a few fender benders) are comparable to my old BMW, maybe a bit lower. A door handle never broke on mine, but I just looked and found one on ebay for 15 EUR in case it breaks in the future. Can’t say it’s unreasonable. There’s simply less mechanical things to go wrong with the car, and over time the 3rd party shops can do almost everything, for a similar price to any other car. And if/when the battery ages (8 years warranty), you can still use it at home.

        Fun to drive, too, and quite efficient, more than most electric cars.

        Nowadays I would never buy one new, and even used it somewhat does rise the price of other Teslas, but I’m not planning to sell mine, I would lose quite a lot of money to end up with a similar car. I am in the market for a second car and it’s definitely going to be electric, but no chance for a Tesla.

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        3 hours ago

        I’ve owned a Tesla and I’d say your wrong about pretty much everything here.

        The whole point of buying an EV is that it stops polluting after it’s been manufactured (ignoring tires) and specifically that you stop polluting your local environment, making it out like used gas powered cars are just as good as used EVs is disingenuous at best.

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        3 hours ago

        Until Tesla allows other shops to do repairs, those swastikars will never be economical even if you ignore the Nazi part

        Everything on them can be fixed by a regular mechanic, and Tesla isn’t stopping it (at least not in Europe). People are getting 3rd party special shops to fix HV batteries and motors on old model S without any issues. Brakes, suspension, steering, LV electrical (windows, lights, handles etc.), AC can be fixed by anyone without issues. And aside from body parts and a few specialty components (their “octovalve” comes to mind), it’s mostly standard auto components that can be bought from 3rd party manufacturers without giving Tesla any money.

        Edit: a model 3/Y door handle is around $100, of course still expensive but also far below your $1000 example, and on par with an original handle for my old ass Peugeot 308.

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        Teslas are still wickedly expensive to repair and there’s only the dealership who can do those repairs.

        Where are you getting that from? There are plenty of 3rd party shops that can and do service Teslas. They even made their repair manuals public and sell the OEM components online.

        The cost of that can apparently be over $1k. For a door handle.

        That’s a door handle on a $100k+ car.

      • OhVenus_Baby@lemmy.ml
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        5 hours ago

        Part of the win is electric vs gas too though. Use the electric until it’s gone and toasted then get a beater.

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        4 hours ago

        But if you do you’ll be able to experience the Passenger Kebab Mode™ firat hand when the battery ignites!

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      6 hours ago

      No money goes to Elon directly, but it still increases the market price of Teslas. So someone else deciding between used and new might just buy new because it doesn’t cost much extra.

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      4 hours ago

      One downside is that Teslas are uncomfortable. I liked them a lot circa 2016, the Model S used to be my favorite vehicle. They simply haven’t held a competitive advantage, or in the case of the 3/Y, are genuinely quite bad. I’d rather pay more for something better, and that was before the CEO became this.

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        1 hour ago

        I’ve had my model 3 for 4 years and it’s more comfortable than any previous car I’ve driven. What is bad about them (other than the fuckwit CEO)?

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      5 hours ago

      No money goes to Elon in that exchange, so you’re not supporting the fascist prick.

      One could say the same about not selling your Tesla in the first place.