Should France and the UK share their nuclear weapons with the rest of Europe?

  • Melchior@feddit.org
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    1 day ago

    Le Pen has already said, that she does not support French nuclear sharing with Germany. So really the only real option for Germany to get relibale nukes is to not share them, but own them.

      • lurch (he/him)@sh.itjust.works
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        Considering WW2 and nazis getting 20% in the last election, we Germans shouldn’t get our own nukes. It’s fine if we get shared ones from our defense partners, but the moment the nazis take over again, the nukes should be gone or deactivated.

        • federal reverse@feddit.orgM
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          As if it had anything to do with nationality per se. The truth is that people in general just suck, and those who see themselves as exceptional and who seek power at any cost tend to suck the most.

        • NewDay@feddit.org
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          The nazis would not have 20% if we have nuclear weapons. Putin uses cyber war to threatening and scaring the German population. The Germans are scared of being one of Putins target. This anxiety would not be there if we had these weapons. Putin knows he cannot use his nuclear weapons against countries which also own nuclear weapons. Unfortunately, the German population is not really the brightest on earth, because they fell into Putins narrative.

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            Putin’s internet-based propaganda runs in most Western countries, no matter whether they have a nuclear arsenal or not. They were/are very successful in the US, the country with the largest nuclear arsenal of them all. Fear of Russian nuclear attacks is only a small part of it.

            Besides, Germany does have US nuclear weapons stationed within its borders, and until November last year, they would have been at the ready. Yet, Putinophilia was trending nonetheless.

          • lurch (he/him)@sh.itjust.works
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            It’s a hot take the nazis are so successful again out of fear of putin. Living in Germany, I don’t get the impression Putin scares anyone here at all. We’re worried about our nation friends who share a border with russia and belarus and that’s the full extend of Putins influence on our emotions.

            I think the nazis reached 20% because they are actually nazis. They offer stupid poppulist impossible solutions for common or often entirely perceived as common problems. They managed to unite a big base using social media, making it okay to come out as a nazi again, which before would have got you shunned or even beaten up. Now, all that happens is a few left protesters, who will get beaten by the police, confirming it’s now better to be a nazi.