This is probably a good opportunity to promote the Lemmy communitiy for LibreWolf: !librewolf@lemmy.ml
No, because I haven’t used mainline Firefox in years.
I’m pretty happy with LibreWolf on desktop and IronFox (available on Accrescent btw!) on Android (GrapheneOS)Unfortunately it’s still much less secure than Chromium, but I want and need a proper adblocker to maintain my freedom online. And I’m definitely not using Brave…
The only kinda usable Chromium browsers are Ungoogled Chromium and Trivalent. I think I might try building Trivalent on macOS at some point. Maybe also gonna apply some patches from Thorium, as long as they don’t compromise security.
Any thoughts on Vivaldi?
I use Waterfox as my primary and Vivaldi as my secondary browser for when a site just really wants a Chromium based browser…it’s great, Chrome minus Google, plus a few nice extras. For those old enough to remember when Opera was a popular alternative browser (before getting bought up and turned to garbage) – Vivaldi is from the guy who made Opera.
Well it’s proprietary and in my opinion extremely bloated.
No thoughts on privacy, but I have been using Vivaldi for many years now and it’s good. Pretty customizable if that’s your thing.
No, if I read that correctly the terms do not apply to me as I don’t use the “Executable Code version of Firefox”.
Yep. I’ve switched to Waterfox, but I need a browser for my phone(I run iOS, yes I know), any suggestions?
Brave is unfortunately still the best browser on iOS when it comes to privacy. I absolutely despise of the company and especially their homophobic CEO, but there aren’t better alternatives available right now.
Probably Ironfox
It seems like that’s Android only?
Yeah sorry, don’t know about Iphones
Nope.
Not that I don’t think it’s a dumb move from Mozilla, but the options right now are:
- Stay with Firefox
- Move to a Firefox-based browser
Especially since I use Mozilla’s services I’m sorta in their ecosystem right now. Maybe once I’ve moved passwords off I can consider moving, but even then on Android the only browser that supports uBlock is Firefox afaik, which makes it my YouTube client of choice.
you don’t need to move to a non-firefox based browser. Honestly what would you move to, chromium?
a password manager is better.
100% recommend moving off firefox’s password manager, as it’s generally much more insecure than something like Bitwarden
I gotta set up something on my home server fr
Ideally, but bitwarden is a great in between solution, you can always export everything later to your self hosted solution of choice.
VaultWarden, selfhost bitwarden server
I’m mainly trying to work out how to get off windows.
Nice. I’ve been there, and changing just a bit at a time has added up to my computing now being in a state I’m much happier with.
I still don’t see Mozilla as a bad actor, especially in comparison with the villany that is google and microsoft. It’s still a great alternative for privacy newbies and average users, although I personally made the switch to librewolf (desktop) and iceraven (mobile) a while ago. Both being forks of firefox, development for actual firefox is essential for either of these to survive, so Mozilla still has my support albeit indirectly
Mozilla’s only reason of existence right now is so that Google can skirt an antitrust case.
Edit: to be clear, that in itself makes it a bad actor.
i have ironfox on android, and you can use alternative to google play, apparently google has secretely downloaded an app" which scans your phones and sends it to google.
Librewolf / IronFox for me, Mozilla can fuck right off with their cloud services, added value and hunger for telemetry. Their 2% userbase is about to shrink even further.
Oh wow, I did that exact switch yesterday upon seeing the changes.
I’ve been using Firefox since it was Netscape, and I’m ‘concerned’ but not going anywhere yet.
Yeah, same here… I’m cautiously worried, but more for other things that have happened than these last changes.
Exactly the same situation here. I’ll wait for a while and see what happens.
Not yet, they’re still the best option that doesn’t use Chromium (I don’t count Safari), but Servo is looking pretty promising
I’ve been using gnome web for a bit
Librewolf. Mozilla will just keep enshittifying their browser. My biggest hope is that chrome is split off from Google and Mozilla loses their funding from google (500M/year). It’s way more than they need and they refuse to actually compete with Chrome/Chromium. Instead, they are content being the excuse for Google not to be sued for being a monopoly.
Hopefully the charade will end before Trump leaves office. Either because the US courts force google to split or because the EU finally grows a pair and declares Google and their tech to be a liability. My bet is that a new browser like LadyBird will give Firefox a reason to actually improve, but it’ll be too late.
After a quick look at librewolf I may absolutely join you
Librewolf is basically a autoconfig file for firefox (firefox feature). https://codeberg.org/librewolf/settings/raw/branch/master/librewolf.cfg You can use this file in normal firefox.
Yes.
Short term – I’ll probably be moving to LibreWolf, most likely. I’m planning to spend a good chunk of time this weekend reviewing what exactly their fork does. I’ve read their self-description already – and like it – but I want to look through the code and try to build it myself before I start depending on it.
Long term – I’ll be keeping my eye on Servo and Ladybird.
Librewolf is not exactly a fork. It is a autoconfig file for firefox (which is a firefox feature). https://codeberg.org/librewolf/settings/raw/branch/master/librewolf.cfg It’s not a solution.
this actually makes me more likely to use it.
I doubt implementation of terms will be optional.
Thanks for the pointer. As I said, I need to spend a good chunk of time reviewing exactly what they’ve done before I feel confident enough to depend on it. A simple reconfiguration of stock Firefox that I am confident does not phone home is likely good enough for me in the short term.
If you have a better solution though, please let us know what it is.
does not phone home
Only blocking will achieve this fully.
What I use is Firefox with config (similar to librewolf) + blocking using privoxy. I’ve been using this for a long time. However I’m no longer confident this is sufficient.
Already switched to Zen on PC and Fennec on Android.
Yep, switched tot waterfox…
I honestly have no clue, personally.
I know i have to jump ship, but my choices are either chromium, or a fork of firefox, that may be slow to catch up with security / may not last.
I’ve got my eyes on librewolf, floorp and zen.
I’m especially watching https://ladybird.org/. A completely independent browser. But the dev has gotten himself in hot water iirc, but anything to get away from google and mozilla, i guess. Also, it’s not complete.
We’ll see what the future has in stock for us.
What is forcing you? Why do you have to jump ship.
This is not an endorsement to use Firefox further but I am curious about your phrasing.
Mainly that i don’t want my data being sent to mozilla. But I’ve decided to stick to firefox for a little more, but this action from mozilla has dropped my trust in them.
I think @fxomt@lemmy.dbzer0.com hasn’t yet been enlightened by the fact that one can block Mozilla’s URLs and IPs to escape it. TOS for software is dumb and made to be broken, don’t let anyone argue with you otherwise.
I’ve decided to stick to firefox for some time, but i don’t trust mozilla anymore.
They’ve been enshittifying for the past few years, and this is a huge tipping point for me.
I’ll take your advice, thanks
Andres Kling? I haven’t seen anything about him recently to suggest he’s done anything suspect.
