I genuinely want to know why I keep seeing people repeat this sentiment.
If we lived in a healthy democracy, a candidate that would infringe so openly on rights - especially in this context - wouldn’t have the platform to even run or the governmental power to do so.
With that supposition I think we can agree something is clearly not healthy, whether societal socially, or as a function of checks on the government. And that’s before questioning the legitimacy of this outcome. Not that the answer will change anything, but regardless, I chose not to harp on the people who genuinely did not know better, as you imply of LGBT here.
The collapse of the systems that are intended to power check the goverment will benefit literally nobody, not that voted for, nor against, nor at all. So what do we gain by putting blame other than infighting?
If you know any significant number of people that voted for the rapist it’s hard to ignore the distinct possibility he actually won. I hope it comes to light that he didn’t and he gets booted, but lots of people are still cheering this on. I have family members cheering this on, so anecdotally I feel like he got the votes
I hope it comes to light that he didn’t and he gets booted
I really do my best to not be alarmist, but by who? I’ve stopped counting the headlines about agencies being illegitimately gutted and information leaking, each instance on dubious legal ground at very best. How could any prosecution keep up and be any more effective than when he was first impeached?
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I’m fortunate that none of my closer family has fallen in. But for both of the companies I’ve worked for since 2016, essentially everyone - especially corporate management, but even shop workers - has drank the koolaid. Had one today tell me he was excited for his DOGE check… In no way am I doubting there are many, many fools who wanted to be played twice, but it won’t be until the majority of them softening on their loyalty to him and actually start asking questions that maybe something can happen - or not.
To make some semblance of a difference, changing some of those peoples minds collectively is really all to do for now. These people only watch the five, fox news business, and maybe some Joe rogan. Of course they believe the only things they hear. But that’s a much easier task when shit actually gets rough for everyone, which simultaneously I do not anticipate.
I asked because, that 13% combined with those who didn’t vote at all might have been the difference between being persecuted or not by the current administration.
Note that this isn’t limited to this community, it’s any community who voted for a candidate who openly and in public stated repeatedly what he was going to do.
Now it’s happening like a minute to minute reality TV show and it’s affecting the whole planet.
I asked because, that 13% combined with those who didn’t vote at all might have been the difference between being persecuted or not by the current administration.
13% of 10% of the population, if every single queer person voted, is 1.3% of the total population. Blaming 1.3% of the population for being oppressed by the majority that voted for oppressing them is at best a waste of time.
84% of Trump’s votes came from white people; if 5% of them were less shitty we wouldn’t be going through this. But somehow this societal conversation always comes back to minorities not voting correctly or not voting enough, instead of talking about white America’s racism problem.
I think my point got lost in this and I’m to blame for not articulating myself, I apologise.
I was (poorly) trying to point out that there are enough minorities in the population who are currently being persecuted who either voted for this administration, or didn’t vote at all.
The overall margin between the candidates was only 0.15%.
Sorry if I was short about it or jumped the gun; I’ve seen more people than I like blaming Trump being elected on their favored punching bag, while ignoring the bigoted elephant in the room.
The twisted thing is, even the full throated, Nazi-saluting racists are going to get hurt by this administration. Nobody benefits from measles making a comeback or people dying from lack of abortion access, and health problems don’t care how you voted.
It’s not limited to measles and abortion, the Avian Influenza A (H5N1) which recently jumped the species barrier a second time from birds to cows into veterinarians is being monitored by the CDC who just lost 10% of their staff.
How many voted for the Orange and how many didn’t bother to vote at all?
I genuinely want to know why I keep seeing people repeat this sentiment.
If we lived in a healthy democracy, a candidate that would infringe so openly on rights - especially in this context - wouldn’t have the platform to even run or the governmental power to do so.
With that supposition I think we can agree something is clearly not healthy, whether societal socially, or as a function of checks on the government. And that’s before questioning the legitimacy of this outcome. Not that the answer will change anything, but regardless, I chose not to harp on the people who genuinely did not know better, as you imply of LGBT here.
The collapse of the systems that are intended to power check the goverment will benefit literally nobody, not that voted for, nor against, nor at all. So what do we gain by putting blame other than infighting?
If you know any significant number of people that voted for the rapist it’s hard to ignore the distinct possibility he actually won. I hope it comes to light that he didn’t and he gets booted, but lots of people are still cheering this on. I have family members cheering this on, so anecdotally I feel like he got the votes
I really do my best to not be alarmist, but by who? I’ve stopped counting the headlines about agencies being illegitimately gutted and information leaking, each instance on dubious legal ground at very best. How could any prosecution keep up and be any more effective than when he was first impeached?
~
I’m fortunate that none of my closer family has fallen in. But for both of the companies I’ve worked for since 2016, essentially everyone - especially corporate management, but even shop workers - has drank the koolaid. Had one today tell me he was excited for his DOGE check… In no way am I doubting there are many, many fools who wanted to be played twice, but it won’t be until the majority of them softening on their loyalty to him and actually start asking questions that maybe something can happen - or not.
To make some semblance of a difference, changing some of those peoples minds collectively is really all to do for now. These people only watch the five, fox news business, and maybe some Joe rogan. Of course they believe the only things they hear. But that’s a much easier task when shit actually gets rough for everyone, which simultaneously I do not anticipate.
Less than voted for Trump in 2020, according to polling (13% in 2024).
Why do you ask?
I asked because, that 13% combined with those who didn’t vote at all might have been the difference between being persecuted or not by the current administration.
Note that this isn’t limited to this community, it’s any community who voted for a candidate who openly and in public stated repeatedly what he was going to do.
Now it’s happening like a minute to minute reality TV show and it’s affecting the whole planet.
13% of 10% of the population, if every single queer person voted, is 1.3% of the total population. Blaming 1.3% of the population for being oppressed by the majority that voted for oppressing them is at best a waste of time.
84% of Trump’s votes came from white people; if 5% of them were less shitty we wouldn’t be going through this. But somehow this societal conversation always comes back to minorities not voting correctly or not voting enough, instead of talking about white America’s racism problem.
I think my point got lost in this and I’m to blame for not articulating myself, I apologise.
I was (poorly) trying to point out that there are enough minorities in the population who are currently being persecuted who either voted for this administration, or didn’t vote at all.
The overall margin between the candidates was only 0.15%.
Source: https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/5094602-a-landslide-just-0-15-percent-of-all-voters-determined-trumps-2024-victory/
Sorry if I was short about it or jumped the gun; I’ve seen more people than I like blaming Trump being elected on their favored punching bag, while ignoring the bigoted elephant in the room.
The twisted thing is, even the full throated, Nazi-saluting racists are going to get hurt by this administration. Nobody benefits from measles making a comeback or people dying from lack of abortion access, and health problems don’t care how you voted.
It’s not limited to measles and abortion, the Avian Influenza A (H5N1) which recently jumped the species barrier a second time from birds to cows into veterinarians is being monitored by the CDC who just lost 10% of their staff.
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