Part of what’s making learning Linux so difficult for me, is the idea of how fragmented it is. You can install programs with sudo apt get (program). You can get programs with snaps. You can get programs with flatpaks. You can install with tar.gz files. You can install with .deb files. You can get programs with .sh files. There’s probably more I don’t know about.
I don’t even know where all these programs are being installed. I haven’t learned how to uninstall them yet. And I’m sure that each way has a different way to uninstall too.
So that brings me to my main question. Why not consolidate all this? Sure, files CAN be installed anywhere if you want, but why not make a folder like /home/programs/ where it’s assumed that programs would be installed?
On windows the programs can be installed anywhere, but the default is C:/windows/Program Files x86/ or something like that. Now, you can change it all you want when you install the programs. I could install it to C:/Fuckfuckfuck/ if I wanted to. I don’t want to, so I leave it alone because C:/Windows/Program Files x86/ is where it’s assumed all the files are.
Furthermore, I see no benefit to installing 15 different programs in 7 different folders. I begrudgingly understand why there’s so many different installation methods, but I do NOT understand why as a collective community we can’t have something like a standardized setting in each distro that you can set 1 place for all your installation files.
Because of the fragmentation of distros, I can understand why we can’t have a standardized location across all distros like Windows has. However I DON’T see why we can’t have a setting that gets set upon each first boot after installation that tells each future installation which folder to install to.
I would personally pick /Home/Programs/, but maybe you want /root/Jamies Files/ because you’re Jamie, and those are your files.
In either case, as we boot up during the install, it would ask us where we want our program files installed. And from then on, no matter what method of install you chose, it would default to whatever your chosen folder was.
Now, you could still install other places too, but you would need to direct that on a per install basis.
So what’s the benefit of having programs each installed in seperate locations that are wildly different?
This is part of why these days I just stick to flatpaks. No fragmentation, same on any distro, I know where all the programs are going as well as all their config files.
If I want to back up my flatpaks I can do so trivially.
It’s a godsend. Way better than having a bunch of different formats everywhere, or the windows-style some programs installed in XYZ directory, some in program files, some in program files (x86), with config files saved literally anywhere. Maybe it’s in one of the dozens of poorly laid out appdata folders, maybe it’s where the exe is, maybe it’s in documents, maybe it’s in C:, maybe it’s hidden in my user directory, etc. I’ve even seen config files saved to bloody onedrive by default, leading to some funky app behaviour when I wasn’t connected to the internet, or when I ran out of onedrive space.
I think it would be cool to see Flatpak enter the server space.
Basically docker no?
No, because docker shows up in random places in your system and takes forever to set up compared to the actual program
There’s a few repos for online management consoles and the original version used a .sh file that installed in 30 seconds on a single core free VPS. The docker version was like two minutes and when I uninstalled it, I still have traces of docker on the VPS
There’s a lot of configuration you can do with docker containers to ease the “where are my files” problem, along with the prune commands, in my experience, working well to clean up leftover files and such.