I’m a little unclear on how the furry identity works. Is it like an LGBT+ thing where you just are this thing regardless of your feelings or desires, or does wanting to be a furry make you one? Like, I’ve fought against being trans much of my life, but now I see I pretty much always was. But I don’t know if liking the puppygirl idea makes me a furry, or if that’s something I have to have always been? (this is not a reaction to a recently popular puppygirl, I’ve meant to ask this for a while) I also may be terribly misunderstanding furries; that’s a taboo subject where I live, so I don’t know much.

  • urmums401k [she/her, they/them]@hexbear.net
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    6
    ·
    edit-2
    5 hours ago

    I think, like being queer, there is no clear answer, and looking for one is kind of missing the point?

    Like, does it matter whether someone is queer or gender non conforming from birth or from last Tuesday, to anyone who’s not a massive piece of shit?

    And trying to answer that definitively kills a bunch of nuance and creates lots of biphobia and is just generally awful.

    Furs are pretty similar there. Are you this thing? Do you like to do this thing? Have you always wanted to try this thing? These can all have different answers, or the same, and it’s fine.

  • Evilphd666 [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    6
    ·
    edit-2
    7 hours ago

    tails-pout Don’t google Yiff

    Not a furry but I think it’s more someone’s more social alt persona. Either to overcome social axiety or to build an image outside of ones self snd problems. Maybe higher rates in neurodivergent people.

  • belligerentkitten [they/them, it/its]@hexbear.net
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    5
    ·
    7 hours ago

    my first partner told me that if u sleep with a furry u are a furry and that automatically makes u a furry, and also apparently everyone i have slept with since.

    now i don’t think that’s actually the case but i find it very funny.

    as for what truly makes u a furry i guess it’s about identity and relatability. u don’t need to be into (necessarily) full on fur suits to qualify. i think being a puppygirl absolutely qualifies - but being a furry is also about calling yourself a furry, identifying as one. furrydom is a diverse queer art culture and social group, and it’s something u actively identify with, as opposed to automatically being made one because of who u are.

    if u wanna be a furry then basically i would say u are one.

    i’m a kitten (i fear that may be obvious) and i’m not like super deep in any furry communities but i definitely feel like the term fits me to some degree. tho i also feel like the kitten thing maybe goes deeper. i just am a kitten. but i’m also a furry.

  • TankieTanuki [he/him]@hexbear.net
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    12
    ·
    edit-2
    9 hours ago

    To become a practicing furry an individual must obtain a bachelor’s degree in anthropomorphic studies, followed by a Furry Degree (F.D.) from an accredited fur school. Afterward, they must undergo a 3-year residency program in digital art production.

    Following residency, furries must obtain board certification from a recognized fur board, such as the American Board of Anthropomorphism, by passing written and oral exams. They also need to obtain state licensure to sell commissions.

    Additionally, some furries pursue fellowships in suspecialities like feathers or scalies, and continually binge watch furry television programs on Netflix to maintain their certification.

  • Saoirse [she/her, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    14
    ·
    10 hours ago

    Humans have identified the self in animals for as long as archaeological history records. The very earliest surviving figurative sculptures and illustrations of human beings feature animal features. It seems to emerge naturally from human perception, the inclination to identify with particular animals and to produce images of animal like humans, and human like animals. How this has been culturally contextualized has varied tremendously throughout history. The furry subculture is simply a modern manifestation of this impulse to produce and identify with such images and representations.

    I’d speculate it’s strong current within the LGBT communities is a side effect of contemporary western culture’s lack of an established cultural context in which to exercise this artistic and conceptual impulse, naturally leading those who feel it strongly to be or to sympathize with people who are not well-represented within dominant culture in other ways.

  • PropagandaIsUseless [he/him]@hexbear.net
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    14
    ·
    edit-2
    12 hours ago

    Hi, I just came out as gay, and as a furry last week! After spending over a decade in the closet…

    So, here’s a short history of my experience of the Furry fandom.

    When I was a young lad (teen), I noticed I felt attraction toward guys, but not girls. Boobs don’t really do it for me. I grew up in a conservative christian household, so even those thoughts were considered evil. So, repressing those thoughts along the merry way, I found furry communities online. For the first time, Queerness was not punished. Queerness was not shamed, it was celebrated with art, writing, and “art”. The online Furry community was a safe haven where I could imagine a world where I didn’t have to repress all those things anymore, and be more of myself.

    Now that I’m out (to my close friends), I’m noticing that Queer acceptance is a major cornerstone of furries. Next important thing to me, is the appreciation or enjoyment of the ideas, art, or media. Third is just a dash of Chemical X (weirdness), or more accurately, the courage to be yourself, enjoy yourself, and be cringe.

    Yes, there are kinks, but I’ve heard the quote: “There is pornographic art and room parties, you’re out of your mind to deny that stuff exists, but that isn’t unique to furries. Think of Anime, Star Trek, etc. These fandoms and cultures don’t have sexy or kinky things because of the content, they have those things in it because they are created by (and for) human beings.” The furry fandom likely gets more shit for it because of A) the open queerness and B) actually it’s probably just the open queerness.

    Oddly, I’ve become slightly less attached to the Fandom, while enjoying it more, if that makes any sense.

    There’s tons of YouTubers that do documentaries on the stuff. There’s like a 1.5h film festival submission that won awards on YT, describing the history of modern-day Furries.

    Historically, pictures and stories of animal-people are as old as civilization itself. Even the Epic of Gilgamesh had a Furry character in it, off the top of my head.

  • invo_rt [he/him]@hexbear.net
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    24
    ·
    14 hours ago

    Long-time furry here. Let me try to break it down a bit.

    “Furry” at its core is simply an interest in anthropomorphic animals. That covers a wide spectrum of people ranging from those that only have an interest in the art to therians who identify integrally as nonhuman. Whether you are a furry or not is just a matter of self-identification and whether you choose to engage with the fandom. I know incredible artists with whole-ass fursonas that don’t call themselves furries and that’s totally fine.

    The puppygirl idea is something worth exploration though. Being into that doesn’t necessarily mean you are a furry. There’s an entire subculture of pup play that exists and while there is a fair bit of overlap between that and furry, it is a separate, distinct thing. Just food for thought!

  • FunkyStuff [he/him]@hexbear.net
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    24
    ·
    14 hours ago

    “born this way” has always been more of a rhetorical device than anything else. Your identity is valid even if you ‘decide’ to change into a new one because of a thing you like. That’s just as true for gender and orientation as it is for something like being a furry. You do you!

  • Thallo [love/loves]@hexbear.net
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    21
    ·
    15 hours ago

    If you want to be a puppygirl or furry, you can just be one. Self identify.

    To be trans, you don’t have to “always have been” either

    • CupcakeOfSpice [she/her]@hexbear.netOP
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      12
      ·
      14 hours ago

      I guess that makes sense. About the trans thing, I guess that’s just how it’s been presented to me. I came from a deeply conservative background and am working through a lot of deprogramming and relearning. Also Tumblr lib programming to undo too.

      • Thallo [love/loves]@hexbear.net
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        11
        ·
        14 hours ago

        It’s okay. I think it’s a pretty common conception. For years, the phrase was “I am a woman who was born in a man’s body”

        I think the trans community has a more mature grasp on gender these days that focuses on gendered experience rather than innate qualities.

        I’m glad you found your transness and made it here after being in such a conservative place cuddle

  • propter_hog [any, any]@hexbear.net
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    11
    ·
    edit-2
    13 hours ago

    A Buddhist monk once told me all that is required to “be a Buddhist” is just to decide one day to be Buddhist. There’s no ritual or prayer or demonstration; there’s no exam to make sure you’re “Buddhist enough”.

    It’s the same way with furry and lgbtq+. If you think you are, you are. Welcome.