• Cptn_Slow@lemmy.world
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    13 days ago

    So the “camps” side of things definitely feels gross, but he’s “threatening” to enforce the law, that’s not wrong. Now if he’s weaponizing the system to deport his opposition or otherwise law abiding citizens, that’s a problem.

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      13 days ago

      He has promised to deport pro-palestine protesters.

      Most of whom are born Americans.

      You’re not paying attention. The camps are for far more than just the undocumented.

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        13 days ago

        Okay, but legally he can’t do that. No matter how much he wants to. And once again, orders are as only good as the people who are tasked with carrying them out.

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          He’s a literal criminal who has filled the courts with his minons and the police love him.

          Who’s going to stop him? Seriously who?

          His term this time is going to be worse than last time because he and the republican party have removed all the ways we have to stop him from doing whatever the fuck he wants.

          Official acts are completely legal now. He can order protesters executed and the supreme court already said that’s fine.

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          It’s worth noting here that the President, as per the supreme Court, is immune from all prosecution if his actions result from the scope of his duties. It would be trivial for Trump to argue that deporting everybody he doesn’t like is within the scope of his duties, whether it’s lawful or not. That’s the unique danger we face right now: a combination of a strong man and a uniquely deferential SCOTUS. It’s never happened in American history.

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          Sigh people who think a piece of paper with ink scribbles will protect them… 😮‍💨

          Presidents issue orders against the law all the time and they’re carried out. The damage is done before the issue even hits a court room and then you assume that the judge is willing to risk their life to protect your rights? 😂

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      A lot of the people he wants to deport are people claiming asylum because the country they come from is too dangerous to be in. Letting those people stay here while they plead their case is one of our lawful treaty obligations. Rounding them up and summarily deporting them is not enforcing the law it’s abrogating the law.