The education minister says female Muslim students will not be allowed to wear the loose-fitting robe.

Pupils will be banned from wearing abayas, loose-fitting full-length robes worn by some Muslim women, in France’s state-run schools, the education minister has said.

The rule will be applied as soon as the new school year starts on 4 September.

France has a strict ban on religious signs in state schools and government buildings, arguing that they violate secular laws.

Wearing a headscarf has been banned since 2004 in state-run schools.

  • electrogamerman@lemmy.worldEnglish
    45·
    1 year ago

    Whoever people sleep or get married with is none of anyone’s business, but Muslims are against homosexuality.

    • TimewornTraveler@lemm.eeEnglish
      53·
      1 year ago

      Funny, I know Muslims who aren’t against gays but they still wear headscarves. Maybe it’s more complex than the Saudi policy line?

      Also, are you saying authoritarian government is good if they only discriminate against people you don’t like? I guess that’s something an Auth would say…

      • electrogamerman@lemmy.worldEnglish
        15·
        1 year ago

        Authorarian government is good when people are attacking minorities.

        Muslisms dont want to accept homosexuality? Then ban them and make them go back to their countries. You want to stay? Its time to accept homosexuality in their religion. Simple.

        Funny, I know Muslims who aren’t against gays but they still wear headscarves. Maybe it’s more complex than the Saudi policy line?

        Funny, because you never see people with headscarves on the pride parades. There are thousands of them living in western Europe, but somehow they dissappear during pride parade. Funny, isn’t?

        • kase@lemmy.worldEnglish
          3·
          1 year ago

          you never see people with headscarves on the pride parades

          What does that even mean? That you yourself have never seen someone wearing a headscarf at pride? Personally, I think it’s a huge leap to take that and say no/very few Muslims in western Europe go to pride.

          It wouldn’t matter even if that was true. Plenty of people support the LGBTQ+ community and don’t go to pride, same goes for many people who are part of the community.

        • TimewornTraveler@lemm.eeEnglish
          1·
          1 year ago

          Isn’t it curious how this argument is never applied to bigotry broadly. People always seem to be so on-board with banning Muslims from France for this reason or that, and always retreat into criticizing their beliefs, as if that were some consistent policy. But some hick in West Virginia doens’t accept gays? Why not call for banishing him from America?

          Oh they are immigrants? Funny because plenty of muslims are born in France/America and have lived there their entire lives. And even the ones who haven’t - it’s called a fucking refugee. A good nation is one that takes someone in who is hurting, regardless of who they are and what they believe, and do their best to provide an environment that protects everyone and gives them a chance to learn accepting beliefs.

          Notice how none of this shit has anything to do with headscarves btw… almost like there’s another agenda here…

          • electrogamerman@lemmy.worldEnglish
            1·
            1 year ago

            It is tho. We need to erradicate homophobia from everywhere. You have to understand the background tho.

            Yeah, all religion are against homosexuality, but christianity and catolicisism is at least trying to integrate homosexuality into the religion. There are gay fathers, churches have the rainbow flag, the pope (the head of the religion) just last week advocated for same sex couples. Is it perfect? No it is not, but at least there are some people in the religion trying.

            What about muslim? No, they are not trying. Countries where muslism is the main religion have death penalty or life sentences for homosexuals. And the problem is that is not the main problem of the religion, for them to be able to accept homosexuality, they would first need to realize that they are misogynistics, and that is not happening any time soon.

            It is the same thing white people vs mideast people. Are all white people queer friendly? Not they are not, but there are a lot more that support homosexuality. Are all mideast people homophobic? Not they are not, but I am probable to be beaten up by a mideast guy than by a white guy (in Europe).

            Notice how none of this shit has anything to do with headscarves btw… almost like there’s another agenda here…

            I agree it hasnt, but if mideast/muslim people keep being homophobic, then I am glad that the government is taking measurements to ban mideast/muslim cultural things like headscarves.

            They want respect and inclusion? Then respect and be inclusive of others. It is this simple.

        • gmtom@lemmy.worldEnglish
          62·
          1 year ago

          Definitely a better argument than “some Muslims don’t like gays, so we should stop French schoolgirls from wearing a specific kind of dress, that’ll teach 'em”

          Well done mate, you and Macron have solved homophobia.

          • electrogamerman@lemmy.worldEnglish
            33·
            1 year ago

            Some muslisms is a BIG under statement.

            If you were afraid of going to the street and hold hands or kiss with a partner because you could be beaten or killed, you would understand, so yeah, im glad France took this decision.

            • gmtom@lemmy.worldEnglish
              41·
              1 year ago

              1. I’m gay and live in a heavily Muslim area, so stfu

              2. Stopping french school girls from wearing a specific dress does… what? To stop Muslim homophobia exactly?

              3. Christians also are anti gays, should we ban graphic tees as some sad, ineffectual petty revenge on them for homophobia?

              4. Okay edgelord