A Texas sheriff's office released bodycam video nearly a week after deputies allegedly shot a woman, mistaking her for an intruder, after she forgot her keys and broke the glass to get into an apartment.
To be fair, they did see a gun and it was after a break in, and they loudly yelled they were the Sherrifs department, with an open window nearby.
The sheriff’s may not have made a correct choice, but if I were in their shoes shoes while standing outside the only exit after yelling I was a cop at an apartment that was just broken into and saw a person going up to the door without turning the lights on with gun in hand I would sure as heck be thinking this person is about to start shooting their way past us.
She didn’t point it at them… they weren’t in danger. People are allowed to have guns in their own home… she did nothing wrong.
Given how these types of encounters keep working out, if I feel in danger when I see a cop with a gun coming to my house do I get to shoot him and say I felt threatened? If the cops did nothing wrong why can’t I do the same because clearly we are in danger when cops come to our house.
They didn’t imagine the gun. The girlfriend confirms that she picked up her gun and went to the door. If the police are there and banging on the door, you don’t pick up a gun and walk to the door in America.
They specifically shot her because she came to the door with a gun. She could see them just as easily as they could see her. If she had time to pick up her gun and walk across the room she had time to yell out to them that she was the home owner. She also had time to see them and realize that approaching the cops with a firearm might not be the best idea.
The cops were responding to a call about a break-in and when they asked for someone to come to the door they showed up with a gun. The cops aren’t going to sit there and wait for the person to start shooting at them. How disconnected do you have to be to think when the cops are banging on the door that it’s a good idea to grab a gun and rock up to the door with absolutely no warning?
Did she at any point identify herself to the police? Did she yell out ‘I’m the home owner and I have a gun’?
She might get a payout, but very unlikely that anything will happen to the cops given the situation.
The right to bear arms is a lot like the right to free speech. It protects your right to do it, it doesn’t protect you from the consequences.
I don’t even think that’s relevant. She was inside her home. The gun was her property. She had it legally. She should not have to announce that she is holding her legal property inside her own home, even if it is a gun.
They broke a window to get into their place and a short time later someone showed up and banged on the door claiming to be police. There is also a giant window right there she could look out and see it’s the police. Try to project less.
Funny that you keep ignoring the whole part where the police started shooting either right in the middle or just after telling her to drop her weapon, giving her no time to drop her weapon.
I’m not ignoring that part. You’re ignoring the part where she could have clearly identified the police through the window and realized that in today’s climate it might not have been a good idea to carry a gun towards the police.
You should consult ChatGPT before using terms you aren’t familiar with. Shit, a quick Google search could have showed you what projection actually is, and isn’t.
No, she did not defy the laws of time and space and announce that she had a gun or that she was a homeowner in the tiny space of time between getting off the couch and getting shot by police who tell her to drop the gun and don’t give her the time to drop it.
it doesn’t protect you from the consequences.
Consequences like police telling you to drop a gun and then shooting you the second the last syllable enters their mouth? Because, again, I’m not sure why you’re expecting her to defy the laws of time and space.
Also, why on Earth you think identifying yourself and saying you have a gun would help her when they didn’t help Philando Castile, I don’t know. Feel free to explain it. Because Castile said it in the middle of the day where the cops could clearly see what was going on and he was still murdered. Sorry, not murdered, treated fairly by the cops. His very fair treatment for complying with everything the police asked of him and telling them he had a gun.
Makes you think, maybe if they’d dumped those mags at a range instead of into someone’s home, they could use fewer bullets overall. Then again, if they were properly trained, they would have actually killed this woman.
What an awful situation, where it’s literally better for officers to be worse marksmen
The cops aren’t going to sit there and wait for the person to start shooting at them.
That’s what they do in countries where non-criminals aren’t afraid of the police, and they seem to do much better both in terms of staying safe and keeping the citizens safe.
Last year, there was a story on here about a homeowner who blasted a drunk college kid through the door of the house because the drunk kid thought it was his own house, and broke the window to unlock the door. And the homeowner faced no charges because it was self-defense. I lamented that this is the America we live in, where people just start blasting without trying anything else first, like turning on the porch light, or calling out. I got down-voted to hell by all the people who said they’d do the same to protect their families.
What if it’d been the cops at the wrong house instead of a drunk college student?
Holy fuck. I don’t usually watch these videos because I am pretty squeamish, but I did for some reason, and you don’t actually see the woman get shot.
What you do see is two cops immediately empty their weapons’ entire clips the second they think they see a gun.
Cowards. The lot of them.
To be fair, they did see a gun and it was after a break in, and they loudly yelled they were the Sherrifs department, with an open window nearby.
The sheriff’s may not have made a correct choice, but if I were in their shoes shoes while standing outside the only exit after yelling I was a cop at an apartment that was just broken into and saw a person going up to the door without turning the lights on with gun in hand I would sure as heck be thinking this person is about to start shooting their way past us.
Your argument would work if they hadn’t yelled to drop the weapon and started shooting in the middle of it.
She didn’t point it at them… they weren’t in danger. People are allowed to have guns in their own home… she did nothing wrong.
Given how these types of encounters keep working out, if I feel in danger when I see a cop with a gun coming to my house do I get to shoot him and say I felt threatened? If the cops did nothing wrong why can’t I do the same because clearly we are in danger when cops come to our house.
No.
They didn’t imagine the gun. The girlfriend confirms that she picked up her gun and went to the door. If the police are there and banging on the door, you don’t pick up a gun and walk to the door in America.
Weird, I thought there was this thing called the second amendment that gun advocates always say is necessary to defend yourself against tyranny.
Also, the cops yell, “DROP THE GUN!” and the start shooting. Immediately.
Maybe don’t blame the victim for both exercising her right and for the cops not even giving her time to do what they tell her to do.
more like “DRO-💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥!”
But this dude thinks she should have “just complied.”
Bro. Clearly she should have used the Sands of Time to reverse as soon as the police made the “Dro” in “Drop your weapon”
She should have played jar of greed so she had a chance to pull such a card
They specifically shot her because she came to the door with a gun. She could see them just as easily as they could see her. If she had time to pick up her gun and walk across the room she had time to yell out to them that she was the home owner. She also had time to see them and realize that approaching the cops with a firearm might not be the best idea.
Why should she have to announce that she was holding her legal property inside her own home?
Why shouldn’t the police have given her time to drop her weapon when they told her to drop her weapon?
You can’t be this clueless.
Insulting me does not answer my questions. Please answer my questions:
Why should she have to announce that she was holding her legal property inside her own home?
Why shouldn’t the police have given her time to drop her weapon when they told her to drop her weapon?
The cops were responding to a call about a break-in and when they asked for someone to come to the door they showed up with a gun. The cops aren’t going to sit there and wait for the person to start shooting at them. How disconnected do you have to be to think when the cops are banging on the door that it’s a good idea to grab a gun and rock up to the door with absolutely no warning?
Did she at any point identify herself to the police? Did she yell out ‘I’m the home owner and I have a gun’?
She might get a payout, but very unlikely that anything will happen to the cops given the situation.
The right to bear arms is a lot like the right to free speech. It protects your right to do it, it doesn’t protect you from the consequences.
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I don’t even think that’s relevant. She was inside her home. The gun was her property. She had it legally. She should not have to announce that she is holding her legal property inside her own home, even if it is a gun.
Exactly. This is TEXAS in AMERICA. She has the right to walk around her property with a personal firarm.
It’s the second one.
They broke a window to get into their place and a short time later someone showed up and banged on the door claiming to be police. There is also a giant window right there she could look out and see it’s the police. Try to project less.
Funny that you keep ignoring the whole part where the police started shooting either right in the middle or just after telling her to drop her weapon, giving her no time to drop her weapon.
I’m not ignoring that part. You’re ignoring the part where she could have clearly identified the police through the window and realized that in today’s climate it might not have been a good idea to carry a gun towards the police.
Ah, so the police were in the right because she did something that, again, was 100% legal, but was not a good idea in your opinion.
Weird, because that doesn’t sound like something that makes the actions of the police defensible. At all.
You should consult ChatGPT before using terms you aren’t familiar with. Shit, a quick Google search could have showed you what projection actually is, and isn’t.
No, she did not defy the laws of time and space and announce that she had a gun or that she was a homeowner in the tiny space of time between getting off the couch and getting shot by police who tell her to drop the gun and don’t give her the time to drop it.
Consequences like police telling you to drop a gun and then shooting you the second the last syllable enters their mouth? Because, again, I’m not sure why you’re expecting her to defy the laws of time and space.
Also, why on Earth you think identifying yourself and saying you have a gun would help her when they didn’t help Philando Castile, I don’t know. Feel free to explain it. Because Castile said it
in the middle of the daywhere the cops could clearly see what was going on and he was still murdered. Sorry, not murdered, treated fairly by the cops. His very fair treatment for complying with everything the police asked of him and telling them he had a gun.Edit: Misremembered a detail.
The consequences, such as being executed by police for legally owning a gun
🇺🇲GOD BLESS THE USA🇺🇲
shes alive
Ahh, it was just an attempted execution. That’s much better
they’re not very good marksmen. i think although both officers reloaded, only managed to land one bullet in the victims leg.
it’s embarrassing for the police for many reasons
5 bullets in her leg and abdomen
Makes you think, maybe if they’d dumped those mags at a range instead of into someone’s home, they could use fewer bullets overall. Then again, if they were properly trained, they would have actually killed this woman.
What an awful situation, where it’s literally better for officers to be worse marksmen
That’s what they do in countries where non-criminals aren’t afraid of the police, and they seem to do much better both in terms of staying safe and keeping the citizens safe.
Cause only cops can say they are cops, right?
There’s a law against impersonating cops, so surely no law-abiding home intruder is going to lie like that.
The victims only heard banging and not the cops announcement.
So she gets her gun to defend herself and answer the door.
Cops see the gun through the window. Don’t announce they’re police. Scream to drop the gun and immediately empty their clips…
The same window the victim could have looked out? The cops clearly identified themselves on the video.
Last year, there was a story on here about a homeowner who blasted a drunk college kid through the door of the house because the drunk kid thought it was his own house, and broke the window to unlock the door. And the homeowner faced no charges because it was self-defense. I lamented that this is the America we live in, where people just start blasting without trying anything else first, like turning on the porch light, or calling out. I got down-voted to hell by all the people who said they’d do the same to protect their families.
What if it’d been the cops at the wrong house instead of a drunk college student?
And if they had plugged a child with a toy gun in this circumstance your argument would be what? Go ahead. Try and say that never happens. I dare you.
Walking to the front door of her home with a legally owned firearm does not excuse these officers from attempting to murder her.
The police use flash bangs for children.