• Ram_The_Manparts [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    3 years ago

    I can’t help but wonder if that sub is mostly populated by men pretending to be women trying to make women look bad. Not saying that women are immune to being assholes, but it is :reddit-logo: after all, so I definitely wouldn’t be surprised.

    • Circra [he/him]@hexbear.net
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      3 years ago

      I’m sure there are a few men pretending on there but I have come across women before who genuinely hold these kinds of views. They’re super rare for sure but let’s face it so are incels and there’s enough of them to form various communities.

      One thing I’ve noticed in both is they seem to have developed this really weird and toxic ideology that really does seem to have a lot of its roots in the increasing commodification of everything including relationships. I’m not saying it’s the biggest cause or even a cause at all but a lot of the weirder shit seems to almost be an attempt to use something like I dunno a marketing algorythm or something.

  • HexbearIntern [they/them]@hexbear.net
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    3 years ago

    If anyone is unaware, this is not how fat naturally distributes on a naturally active person. Those who focus more on running long distances will become very lean, but not get the definition like this. And people who are focused on more stationary heavy labor (moving boxes, blacksmithing, etc) end up stocky with what we in the fat-obsessed west would call “a gut”. Look up pictures of people competing in strongman competitions. They are some of strongest people in the world, but a lot of them would be described as “chubby” by western beauty standards.

    Body builders, meanwhile, call it “sculpting” for a reason. They are on some level trading off strength for definition, to make it more aesthetically pleasing by our beauty standards. I don’t know much about the personal training regiments that blockbuster movie productions employ, but I would guess they make similar tradeoffs despite not needing to get actors near the size of those who compete in worldwide competitions

    More here (from the discourse on whether or not Maui from Moana was fat): https://rosworms.tumblr.com/post/153927433968/maui-is-not-obese

    • TurkeySausageLiker [he/him]@hexbear.net
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      3 years ago

      There are absolutely people who look like this without stepping foot in the gym or paying a single iota of attention to what they eat, but it’s only because of their very specific lifestyles. You won’t find them in the west, but in places like Africa you will see guys who are admittedly not as big as him but just as lean and with more lean muscle mass than the average westerner. I’ve been to South Africa and seen guys who were miners for a living and ate a diet that was high in lean protein like eggs, fish and poultry and do physical labor all day and walk around at like 8% body fat. It’s not because they care about their appearance and count calories etc, but just because they’re too poor to afford addictive processed foods, are extremely active by necessity and by trial and error realize that lean protein makes you feel full for longer.

      This is completely unrealistic in the west and many other places though because our diets are made up of processed foods stripped of micronutrients and packed with the addictive compounds that make us want to consume more (sugar, fat and salt). Also in the west, our lives are just less active. I work in construction and while I am definitely more active than the average westerner, it’s nothing compared to people in underdeveloped countries. For instance, obesity wasn’t a huge thing in Mexico until food corporations expanded there and got everyone hooked on processed garbage, and now they’re fatter than the US. Corporations have stolen our health from us and got us addicted to unhealthy food.

    • Grownbravy [they/them]@hexbear.net
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      3 years ago

      Weird take but it seems like the one most consequential things modern society and captialism itself took from people of its interior is the idea that our bodies can actually do things.

  • kristina [she/her]@hexbear.net
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    3 years ago

    Fds is such as trip. Also pretty sure Disney gives him hardcore drugs to look like that

    Kinda gotta be a genetic freak to look like thst naturally with low time investment. Bf has also been exercising since he was 16 and has an impressive look about him but that’s what you get after 10+ years of investment without drugs . He still has a belly (with abs which is hot af I uh lick them all the time) when not cutting cause cutting is hell

  • SerLava [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    3 years ago

    Before shooting shirtless scenes, male actors have to severely dehydrate themselves starting several days before filming. Their skin loses so much moisture it becomes thinner, forming a tighter contour onto the muscles.

    The actors themselves only look like this for 12 or so hours every few weeks at most.

    It’s literally less realistic than makeup

  • clover [she/her]@hexbear.net
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    3 years ago

    Aren’t literally all of the male MCU actors on record about how much of a pain in the ass it is to maintain that physique

  • supersaiyan [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    3 years ago

    This subreddit has interesting lore it started as a pinkpillfeminism offshoot, and with some femcels which they called themself that. The pinkpillers use to support FDS with everything, but the subreddit mods betrayed them, and start to embrace lookism, and started to focus more appearance more.

    • zifnab25 [he/him, any]@hexbear.net
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      3 years ago
      • Extremely upset at people radically changing their body image

      • Honestly believes you can develop six-pack abs by “picking up a few things”

      Amazing.

  • ValpoYAFF [comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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    3 years ago

    Obviously this is a glib and overstated case, made in service of a very questionable point, but it isn’t totally wrong. I could look like that if I picked up more heavy things more often and starved myself sometimes.