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Surveillance creep is once again striking in the age verification debate. This is happening at the FCC this time.

Surveillance creep is once again striking in the age verification debate. This is happening at the FCC this time.

  • Chloé 🥕@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
    217·
    20 hours ago

    systemd has nothing to do with this lmao, if you see this and immediately think “this wouldn’t have happened if we didn’t let systemd discuss putting an age field 2 months ago!!!1!” you are severely, severely misled. to stay nice.

    nvm i’m pretty sure this is just ragebait

    • grue@lemmy.worldEnglish
      417·
      20 hours ago

      “Everything that contradicts my naive worldview is just ragebait”

      Sure, buddy.

    • meowmeow@quokk.auEnglish
      1314·
      20 hours ago

      Hehe. The people who ignored systemd are the same people who don’t think any of this is a problem. The kind of people who can’t understand that you have to fight this kind of bullshit anytime it pops up or it eventually wins.

      It just won.

      • chunes@lemmy.worldEnglish
        1·
        10 hours ago

        It was obvious from the start that enabling DRM and surveillance was the point of systemd all along.

      • IHeartBadCode@fedia.io
        207·
        19 hours ago

        I’m still trying to figure out how systemd has anything to do with this. Any configurable level user database could have implemented this. /etc/passwd has your “Real Name” in it as well. Finger protocol could have been selected to expose this. Literally there’s dozens of different places the age thing could have been implemented. The maintainers of systemd decided to be the first. Hell, MidnightBSD just added a daemon to implement it.

        Likewise if you’re informed enough you also know there’s a flag to explicitly block it and ways to patch it out. While I’m typically a Slackware and sysvinit type of person, there’s nothing unique about systemd that enabled the shitty law California passed. And fi you really care about privacy, how about less gloat and more information about ways around it, like this fork.

        You’ll go a lot further educating folks how to get around the things you perceive as bad rather than whatever your original comment was. The entire point is to get people … on your side.

        • sic_semper_tyrannis@lemmy.todayEnglish
          112·
          17 hours ago

          That the developers chose to add it at the same time as all the age verification stuff was starting is too much of a coincidence. It shows that some developers in important roles will go along with age verification. The systemd thing can be argued the way that it has been but it’s the beginning of the slippery slope

          • grue@lemmy.worldEnglish
            71·
            16 hours ago

            Exactly. The point is not the technical details of the implementation. The point is that their act of capitulation endorsed the concept.

            As Free Software developers, they had an ethical obligation to resist and they didn’t.

          • The_Decryptor@aussie.zoneEnglish
            51·
            16 hours ago

            That the developers chose to add it at the same time as all the age verification stuff was starting is too much of a coincidence.

            It’d be weird if they added it before the laws were passed, but not that strange to implement it afterwards, but before the deadline.

        • meowmeow@quokk.auEnglish
          413·
          19 hours ago

          People already choose a side. I don’t care to change peoples minds, just mock the morons.

      • Chloé 🥕@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
        108·
        19 hours ago

        i guarantee you the lawmakers who pass this kind of awful law have no idea what systemd even is or what it does

        blaming it (or “systemd simps”) for this is a colossal waste of time. the surveillance society has been progressively installed in the imperial core ever since 9/11, age verification and what’s it turning into is a consequence of this, and systemd adding an age field is a consequence of that.

        blaming systemd for this shit, even in part, is so bafflingly silly, such a ridiculous example of swapping cause and effect that i can’t imagine you’re doing it sincerely but apparently people agree with this???

        that’s like blaming the small creek in your garden for the existence of the raging river upstream. idk.

        • meowmeow@quokk.auEnglish
          74·
          15 hours ago

          I’m blaming the PEOPLE who say “no biggie, just a number” who can’t seem to get it through their thick, dumb, argumentative skulls that these kind of things ALWAYS AND WITHOUT EXCEPTION lead to loss of privacy and more authoritarian laws.

          There’s a big picture. Stop arguing the tiny points with me and SEE IT.

          • Chloé 🥕@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
            2·
            8 hours ago

            Stop arguing the tiny points with me and SEE IT.

            i agree, that’s why i think talking about systemd here (and arguing wether they want to implement this or not) is a massive distraction

            anyways i’m gonna practice what i preach and stop talking about systemd now, enough bytes of online traffic have been spent on this

          • MinFapper@startrek.websiteEnglish
            52·
            13 hours ago

            You’re shooting the messenger. Meta and others are lobbying governments hard for this. They’re the ones causing you to lose your privacy. Not the volunteers that maintain systemd.

            • meowmeow@quokk.auEnglish
              75·
              13 hours ago

              Then those volunteers can refuse. But they won’t, because they agree with this direction.

              It’s plain as day. You’ll agree with me in a few years.